No Thanks Chatbox?

http://www.kh-vids.net/showthread.php?66691-Common-Suggestions.

I know that was posted quite some time ago, but I'm sorry, we still don't plan to add a chat room. Voxli is, as others said, a fine alternative if you want to chat with some KHV members, but it is separate from KHV, and anything that goes on there is independent of both our powers as staff members here and of KHV.

 

IMO chatboxes kinda kill the purpose of forums. People will tend to not post anything in the end.

 

I'll remain as polite as possible.

The chat is an awesome feature of a forum - it allows users to natter about random points, discuss about everything in general or even just idle and soak up the ambience. Consider it to be a Jazz club that never closes, governed by the Site Staff.

If it is difficult to moderate, then you're going to need some chat moderators. :D

 

I've added those who are interested in a chat room to the Voxli group, so they can use Voxli if they wish.

 

Yeah it's been suggested before but the server is not strong enough for a chatbox even the most lightweight.

 

Even if this site had a server that could support it I would not want one. It takes away from posts in other sections to be honest. If people are going to be too busy posting in a chatbox which would be very cluttered then parts of this site could die off. Which the last thing we need here.

 

You got a point Lux but it's more direct between members.

 

Sorry I am a tad bit sleepy so if you could elaborate that would be great.

On a side note I really don't see why this is suggested as much. I have been on some other forums that are great and don't have a chatbox nor need one.

 

Well it's easier to talk about something- anything, shift subject and make small (or big) discussions without making threads. Like MSN, just for khv people only. Of course there is msn, but chatbox is more attractive. :P

And it's true that a chatbox doesn't make a popular forum yea.

 

The only way KHV would even allow its own chatbox or anything of the sort would be for staff to make Voxli KHV's official chatroom. An off-forum chatroom would probably take less away from the posts that an on-forum one would.

This kind of bothers me. I mean, it's not the only issue but if it came down to it where this was the only thing keeping KHV from having a chatroom, would you guys really not hire any more staff from it and just say, "There's no staff to moderate it and no, we're not hiring anyone?"

 

It would be a pain to moderate. I guess that is one reason we wouldn't get one if we could.

 

But what if you had someone that wanted to moderate it? Not saying I would, unless it payed

 

That won't really matter because of the server. And payed yeah right.

 

yeah, no kidding. But you can't blame a guy for trying. No one is hiring over here and I need something to make money on.

 

Aqua there is noone here who makes money from this site. If the staff was paying I would have been a hell more careful of what I post. xD

 

don't worry, I know that. I just sometimes put that because it's fun. Apparently no one seems to get my sense of humor.

In any case, the one thing a chatbox does do is remove activity from the forums, so I guess it probably wouldn't be a good idea. I've been to a few places that have and don't have a chatbox, and the ones without are a lot more active in the whole site than the others

 

Ideal Chat Lite

Ideal Chat Lite​

What is this?

• Ideal Chat Lite is a Facebook-esque chat client for vBulletin.
• It remains down the bottom of the screen, and allows you to communicate with anyone in your Friends List in realtime, one-on-one conversation.
• There is a single group chat room also available.
• Anyone who does not wish to use it can easily opt-out and disable it.
• The vBulletin plugin thread is here.

Want to try it out?

• Go here.
• Sign in with the username 'Ideal Chat Demo' and the password 'chatdemo'.
• See down the bottom for a functioning demo of the chat.
• NOTE: This is the paid version, so it has a few more features than normal. But nothing too important.
• NOTE: This one has a poor response-rate. This can be adjusted by the admin.

Moderation/Abuse

• If someone is abusing the chat, they can have chat-privileges revoked.
• One-on-one conversations are only between friends. It is incredibly easy to block someone.
• As with Private Messages, a screenshot-based system can be used for rule enforcement. (i.e. The member reporting the incident screenshots the chat.)
• Convenience and realtime aside, there is little difference between the one-on-one chat conversations and Private Messages in terms of moderation.
• There may or may not be a way to disable the group chatroom if it proves to be too troublesome.
• There are usually staff online and available to enter the chat on request.
• While it appears that in the Lite version, only Admins are able to moderate the chat specifically, other staff members still has access to the usual punitive measures of the forum.

Previously Noted Flaws

• The server is too small – The new server means that this is no longer a problem. Furthermore, the chat has been noted not to cause server-strain.
• We lack enough staff to moderate a chatroom – We have more staff than before. Also, there is the option of relying on a screenshot-based report system.
• Members are not mature enough to handle realtime conversation – The Voxli chat has demonstrated that members are able to behave maturely and responsibly in a chatroom. (NOTE: All misdemeanours in Voxli were due to anonymous users, some not even from this site, not regular members.)
• MSN and Voxli already exist as alternatives – Both MSN and Voxli require a degree of hassle to set up. Not all members have MSN, and Voxli is not one-one-one. This would allow you to communicate with friends immediately, without trouble.
• This will render PM and VM pointless – VM, PM and chat all have their place. VMs are for leaving a non-realtime conversational message for someone, so they work for offline. PMs, on the other hand, are specifically for private messages. Both VM and PM allow for far longer messages than chat does.

 

Support +1.

 

Have spoken to P about this, and yeah.
As he knows.
I support! *raises hand*

 

I tried this out and it was quite useful. I was able to go to any page and still have my messages there. It also showed how many of my friends were online at the time. Support.