Censored Swear Words in the Songs of TeenNick's Obsess This

So what are your opinions on the censoring of words in TNOT (or in general, for that matter)?

In my opinion, I don't think that words should be censored.
That channel is named TeenNick, after all, and most, if not all, teenagers know better than to throw swear words around willy-nilly.

According to a friend, words like ass and damn are low on the radar, so they're allowed, but words like the F word and the S word are high on the radar, and if they allowed those, it could get the station, or, at the very least, said programming, nuked because of complaining parents.

Technically speaking, it's more noticeable that said song had a swear word when it's muted out because the voice stopping is easily noticeable than when the swear word is said.

The same goes for lyrics. Putting asterisks or whatever to cover up a swear word is more noticeable than if the swear word is just in there with all the other lyrics.

Take Where Them Girls At? by David Guetta featuring Nicki Minaj & Flo Rida, for example.
There are parts that are muted.

One part is where Nicki says,

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"You can suck a ****, you can suck a **** ****"

, and then another where she says the F word.

I listened to the uncensored version, and it was kind of hard to hear those innuendo parts, but when it's muted, it's very noticeable.

Anyway, what are your opinions on this?

 

I agree that it makes it more noticalbe. Also, some songs aren't even enjoyable anymore with cencoring. However, I can understand cencoring at a children's network. Even if it's for teens. It has a different public than music channels.

 

I am very much against censorship. If you don't want your kids seeing certain things it's your job not to let them watch it, not anyone else's responsibility to make it not exist. Teen Nick is for teens and younger kids shouldn't be watching it, and that's all there is to it.

 

That might be simple if it was like you say it. But if you've been/are a kid you know that you do not listen to your parents. Even better, you like doing everything your parents tell you not to do. And in this age, where you have working partens, you cannot always monitor what your kids are doing.

 

I'm almost 17 years old and I can't say I've really felt this way. Probably because I was raised properly. If your child won't listen to you and watches things you forbid them to, you've failed as a parent.

And forgetting that argument completely, parents can take measures that make it impossible to view certain channels.

 

Well, that might be your idea, but I don't think you failed as a parent if your children do not listen to you. You failed as a parent if your children throw away their future and have no change to live a normal life. Not if they never listen to you.

Back on topic (if I wander off too far, tell me, it's called a disorder) I agree parents can put parental control on their TV. An option people should use more if you ask me. (Especially with porn channels)

 

I have to agree.

Television and the satellite receivers themselves have parental locks, which can be used to block channels.

For TeenNick, though, the only problem is the songs. The programs themselves are fine, so instead of going too much to the extreme and enabling parental locks, the parent / parents could just sit with their kid / kids and watch TeenNick's Obsess This with them.

 

I think either one of those constitutes a failed parent, along with several other things. But you can't argue that a defining feature of parenthood is that your kids are supposed to freaking listen to you.

Exactly, and if parents refuse to take that measure despite knowledge of it, they have no grounds for crying to the FCC because their child heard a no-no word. Honestly a good parent should be able to expose their kids to that sort of thing and just explain to them that it's not appropriate for those words to be used by kids. That's what my parents did. I've watched rated R movies for as long as I can remember.

 

The use of swear words doesn't change someone's morals or credibility (well that depends on the frequency of use) so censorship is worthless in the sense that it doesn't change the situation in question at all, the person still swears whether it is heard or it is beeped out

I mean just because I can swear like a ****ing drunken sailor doesn't mean I lack the ability to be kind and generous nor to be intellectual or insightful about the world. I understand that younger children of about 11 and under can abuse the use of the words because of the appeal of using something taboo, but teens becoming more independent shouldn't be penalised to not use it in appropriate conversation.
And if people debate whether swear words are justified in their use... they can be. They are personification for our feelings, hyperboles in the sense that they can make something more then it is 'that is a **** football' our 'what a ****ing big boat'.
Swear words are a part of language history, and that's something people can't deny or get rid of.

 

If that were true, the majority of parents in America would have failed and not listening to your parents and finding out the hard way is the teenage frame of mind in a nutshell.

Anyway, I've learned not to care if a show curses because my parents cursed all the time when I was younger but doesn't make me bad, it's the soccermoms you have to worry about because they go apeshit on networks if one of their shows so much as says damn because: "Poor Timmy might get scarred for life and become a delinquent!" It's the parent's job to monitor what their children watch not the network.

 

I don' t mind curse words at all, I pay more attention to what people say than to the way they say it.
I could throw a vitriolic pamphlet at someone, managing to be very insulting while only using "respectable" words, or I could use swear words in an perfectly innocuous conversation.

I get why one would just censor swear words regardless of their context when aiming at children, but that' s it. Once they are teenagers chances are they already came across their fair share of swear words, regardless of the kind of parents they have, unless they spent their life stucked in a Tibetan cave or a monastery. They also probably have a good idea of what is or isn' t acceptable to say in a conversation, unless they' re total dummies. I mean come on, any teenager who reads "you can kiss my ***" just knows what the last word was, those little stars or bleeps are as inefficient as they are ridiculous.

Maybe Americans in general are a little more touchy about swear words and sex than other countries, I' ve often see American stars amazed by the freedom of speech that French public channels have. I' m pretty sure I could get banned from KHV just by posting certain French shows videos, although they were broad-casted on a public channel at 8pm. Each country has its own taboos. For example in Dragon Ball the scenes that were cut or altered in France were the bloody scenes, whereas in America it was the nudity scenes.

At the end of the day which color you choose to use matters much less than what you' re painting with it. The mindless censorship of any swear words (or of any violent or sexual content) in teenagers or adult material is just as smart a way to deal with reality as this :

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I don't actually mind them censoring swear words for children. Why? Well, mainly because I don't want them to grow up using swear words for everything. I constantly see people using swear words often for absolutely no reason, in a lot of different situations. For one it's just boring, you sound pretty uncreative if all you're able to do is swear no matter what the situation is. Secondly, I always feel as if the message you're trying to convey gets laughable whenever you use swearwords, if someone actually says something smart, but adds in a swearword for no reason, then I will laugh at them and ignore their message. Because you just sound like a ****** really.

Those are my two cents, cheers!