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  1. Hayabusa Venomous

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    My God discussing politics, I forget how stupid it can get.

    But I will go onto debate this.

    ...I can't fathom the reason for making this statement.

    You're saying that, if I let a completely innocent looking person comes into a person's house, then he/she proceeds to betray my trust by pulling out concealed weaponry I couldn't see before and killing a person, it's somehow all my fault? Did I tell that person to kill someone? Did they tell me that he/she was actually a killer? How is it my fault and not the fault of the person who's actually executing these crimes?
     
  2. Peace and War Bianca, you minx!

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    I'm saying that dissent and revolution is not put forward as a few people discussing ideas. Intellectuals, as much as I believe them to be influential and enlightened on the most part, are not the people who have, in history, changed things on a social or political level. Usually, the barbarians and wildmen kill the weak intellectuals, and their long term goals die with them. Genghis Khan, when invading China, began by killing and imprisoning politicians and scholars of high rank, he used force to out think, to influence. Force is much more decisive in some instances, and more passionate. Revolutions occur because of emotions, of passion, of belief in the people, not from debate. It's the state of humanity in the classic saying, actions speak louder than words.

    It's also a falsehood to believe all influence of your word is good. It could be you're spreading bad influence, that you're dissuading people to your cause because of its flaws and other such things. The thing is, I believe my way of living is better than yours and you believe yours are better than mine. But what is a better life for me and you are two different things. I don't try to spread my beliefs on people, just inform them, because I don't think I could handle the responsibility of all those people thinking a certain way because I have told them how. It's why i'm not a great fan of missionaries, converters and preachers. Intention is nice, but forcing someone to find answers is a difficult thing to do.

    What ya talkign bout? I can fly, dmmit, I swear!

    But I meant, you can tell your parents to piss off, but their socialisation of you is never going away. You know life events sort of influence, I was only using gravity as an example since, to me it's equivalent to the influence of parents, friends and other people in our lives.
     
  3. Ars Nova Just a ghost.

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    Yeah but none of those things are like the government, either. Most of them exert their influence indirectly, without force, and eventually as one matures and becomes independent those influences will cease to be figures of authority and become peers, equal counterparts, which can be evaluated as such. For someone who enjoys that level of freedom, any form of government can become oppressive and restricting before long. There's next to nowhere you can easily go to be without it, for one.
     
  4. Peace and War Bianca, you minx!

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    Have you met my parents? I'm 21 and still, apparently, unable to have a valid opinion in my house, because i'm 'nerdy' and use over complicated words. Age, in my experience, rarely establishes diminishing influences from your childhood towards parental figures. You can't escape them, honestly, they're going to linger in your whole life in some fashion aware or not.

    Then any form of human interaction is going to be a problem, parental included, because restrictions are a part of any social humans life, because we each have different views and desires.
     
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