Can you unregister to vote?

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  1. (╯°□°)╯︵ ıɥsoɯ Hollow Bastion Committee

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    Being younger (a year or two lol) and not knowing any better, I was unaware that the people roaming around college, asking you to sign their petitions, where actually registering me to vote. :c I never really wanted to in the first place and I don't vote anyways. So I wanted to know if I can get out of it.

    Does anyone know?
     
  2. DigitalAtlas Don't wake me from the dream.

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    You just not vote....
     
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    Yeah, seriously. If you go a few years without showing up to the polls, they take you off the list.
     
  4. DigitalAtlas Don't wake me from the dream.

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    Even if it doesn't, who cares? Your vote doesn't count until, ya know... ya vote.
     
  5. (╯°□°)╯︵ ıɥsoɯ Hollow Bastion Committee

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    Well, I just don't like having to deal with people who complain to me about not doing so. Also, the whole jury duty thing too. I dunno. I'd rather make sure there's a way that I can get rid of it now than later.
     
  6. SynK Destiny Islands Resident

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    jury duty's not that bad, just look or act racist and you'll get out of it, plus you can use it as an excuse to get off work
     
  7. Jiηx You're such a loser.

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    It doesnt matter if you're registered or not, not voting will always bring people to your doorstep of "why don't you vote." Plus, it means you have no right to complain about the current state of affairs since you did nothing to get the other guy elected.

    Just an example of course, all elections are ultimately futile and the lesser of two evils is really the best option.
     
  8. Peace and War Bianca, you minx!

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    Call Godwin, we have an anarchy on our hands! Dissent, dissent, O the masses cry!
     
  9. Ars Nova Just a ghost.

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    At any rate, jury duty is the best way to make a difference on the state level, especially if you tell the other jurors about their rights
     
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    Some would argue that it doesn't even count after you vote.
     
  11. rikusorakairiown Contributor

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    If I don’t accept something to begin with (in this case, the institution of government), what logic would it be on my part to have any sort of association and/or dealings with it that perpetuates its legitimacy—and then complain about it? If I don’t like Chinese food, I don’t go to Chinese restaurants. (And since the owners of the Chinese restaurants can’t come after me to force me to patronize their businesses, then there’s no need for me to complain about Chinese food.)
    But if you do associate and/or have dealings with something, then there is a tacit understanding that you have accepted its conditions. For example: If you are a left-winger who believes in government and voting—but obviously didn’t vote for Bush—then when Bush was elected you had no right to complain; you’d already agreed to the condition that you would accept the results of the election regardless of who wins. (Of course, a person can complain about certain aspects of the government in the same way that I can complain about some of the food in a restaurant that I do patronize.)
    On the other hand, since I (as a voluntaryist) don’t accept the legitimacy of (nor even the need for) government to begin with, I have every right to complain about this inefficient, corrupt monopoly forcing itself on my personal being when I don’t even want the services that it provides.

    You voted them in, you caused the problem. I, on the other hand, who did not vote, am in no way responsible for that these politicians have done and have every right to complain about the mess that you created
     
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    Your example is flawed without sufficient detail. You simply point out that not voting for Bush would have taken away your right to vote. Not the case. What would give you a right to vote is if you voted for someone else. Believe it or not, there are more than 2 parties to vote for. Reason they never get attention? Too many people have the same attitude about it as you seem to point out in this post. The whole "Nothing will change just because I don't do something" mentality is THE REASON NOTHING CHANGES. Shift it the other way, l get your voice out to as many people as you can whom you know will do the same, and make the difference you apparently want.

    You don't have a right to complain, as far as your post proves, because you don't seem to be doing anything to act against the system besides, well, complain about it on an internet forum based around a video game series. You point out its flaws, but you're not bringing up any alternative to it.

    And a second thing: I FUCKING HATE THE WHOLE "YOU VOTED HIM IN SO ITS YOUR FAULT" MENTALITY. Like seriously? You're going to go ahead and say that everything that a representative does and will do in the future is suddenly the responsibility of people who voted him/her in at a time in which all we could go off of were speeches, promises, and past actions? People change, including government representatives. They're going to do things whether the people who voted for them agree or disagree, because they are their own person, not 100% the voice of the people.

    You may not be responsible for the problem, but you're not helping at all right now.
     
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    A "none of the above" is as a valid a vote as any.
     
  14. rikusorakairiown Contributor

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    but no matter who I vote for I still have a government that I would have to put up with, and by voting I essentially consent to saying "I'm ok with putting up with whoever is in charge", I would rather not suffer the indignity of choosing my master.

    The fact that the place I'm currently complaining about it is a video game forum doesn't somehow invalidate that complaint, and the assertion that that is all I do is presumptuous at best, and while it is true that politicians lie and whatnot, it is still the voters who voted him in, if I let a killer into someones home because they lied about being a killer, it's still my fault they died.

    oh and

     
  15. Peace and War Bianca, you minx!

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    That's only if you believe causality is the responsibility of any one human being, when in actual fact through action and reaction, I could blame any human being for it. I could blame Henry V for the current state of government as it stands, even though he's been dead for over half a millennia.
    You are equally responsible to the vote, since you had the power to influence the outcome yet did not try. Apathetic voting is a vote not to vote, it's still a conscious decision that affects the outcome. I complain about apathetic voters all the time, because it is their unused vote that could change the course of an election. As long as you have the availability to vote, whether you choose to or not, then you are part of the gears turning the machine.
     
  16. rikusorakairiown Contributor

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    I never once made the implication that government is the responsibility of any one being, and the assertion that somehow saying "I do not wish to choose who will rule over me in government for I do not wish to be subject to government" makes me somehow a part of what voted whichever leader in, in is bizarre nonsense akin to saying that being a vegetarian makes me partially responsible for what is the most sold meat, because I COULD have bought a different meat then the one which is the most popular. Utter nonsense.

    Unless of course I've misunderstood you.
     
  17. DigitalAtlas Don't wake me from the dream.

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    N*ggas- This thread got dumb. Really dumb. :'D
     
  18. Peace and War Bianca, you minx!

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    Just to say, I dislike this game of comparing two unrelated subjects to make our arguments sound convincingly true, since it's an old political debate technique, but if that's the rules of this game...

    It doesn't matter whether you agree with a system you are in, you are subject to it. Just because I don't like the laws of gravity and its influence over me doesn't mean I can simply deny its influence on me, or more down to earth, the influence of my parents, friends, society, and so on, I have no choice on the place I am born into.
    You're born into a political system you don't like, that's fine. But trying not to make the best of your situation by releasing all responsibility and saying you're not agreeing with it doesn't help your situation at all. You're not actively opposing the government through protest or action by not voting, your passive protesting, which has almost null influence on the government you hate. You're saying you don't like the system, but you're not doing anything about it. Even actively opposing the government through action is more beneficial than just sitting and complaining about it.
     
  19. rikusorakairiown Contributor

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    And how would one suggest actively opposing the government? No, the only way I can think to act is to debate and discuss, thereby either bringing others to a similar conclusion or bringing myself to a different one. I would disagree with the statement that discussing it does not help my situation at all, as it can be only beneficial, either others are persuaded onto my side of the argument and (hopefully) proceed to also engage in acts of civil disobedience and debating with others on the matter, or I see that there is folly in the way I think and thus change it. Just because something is not violent, or does not have an immediate effect does not mean it is pointless.
     
  20. Ars Nova Just a ghost.

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    Mostly, it's their fault for lying. Also killing.

    I mean you can't talk to gravity and say "Leave me alone nigga," but you can to most of those others