Kingdom Hearts II Can Nobodies have hearts?

Discussion in 'Kingdom Hearts HD II.5 ReMIX' started by TwilightDragons, Dec 29, 2007.

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  1. -Darkness-Princess-Namine Moogle Assistant

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    well...

    welll since Roxas and Namine have emotions then i would say yes cause like they have emotions for their other halfs like Sora and Kairi i mean so i would say yes
    but then since they are Nobodies they can't have hearts rite?
    i don't know it's kinda confusing....
     
  2. TwilightDragons Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Thank you!

    Dragons: Thank you DarKnight36! That’s the point that I’ve been trying to make.
    Just because their hearts aren’t in their bodies, doesn’t mean that they’re severed from them. The hearts are still connected. It’s like a web made of people’s hearts, but Nobodies have fallen out of that web. And (as mentioned by DarKnight36) the souls still hang from the hearts.
    *Takes a deep breath*
    I don’t think that Demyx had emotions, just Roxas and Axel.
    Roxas had a heart, or at least part of one, because he could feel. Does anyone deny that Roxas could feel genuine emotions? Supported by the fact that he couldn’t remember anything to fake?
    If we agree on that, let’s move on.
    Now Axel is tricky. He shared a deep friendship with Roxas. (Agree so far?)
    I believe that the heart does not create emotions. The emotions create the heart. Lacking a heart may have contributed to the Organization’s lack of emotion, but that may have been the trip through darkness.
    Look at Riku in KH1 for crying out loud.

    I have some evidence to support my theory, and I’m going to give you a link to it.
    < http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3540994&page=1>
    I did a school project on this, so this is the real deal.
    Here’s a summary:
    In 2000 Peter Houghton faced death due to heart failure. To save his life, doctors used Jarvik 2000, a titanium pump to replace his heart’s left ventricle. The Jarvik 2000 uses an internal cable, which runs up his chest, out behind his ear, and is connected to an exterior battery pack. Normally the pump is only temporary until the user can get a heart transplant. Houghton is the longest-living person with the device, due to not getting a heart.
    Though his heart “beatsâ€, Houghton claims that his emotions are muted. He wishes to bond with his children and great-grandchildren, but feels emotionally disconnected. "I have become less emotional, quite substantially less emotional," he said.
    Emotions may be connected to the heart. Researchers have found that the heart does react differently to a range of emotions. For instance, when someone is angry or fearful the rhythm of the heart is chaotic. The chaotic heart rhythm activates a part of the brain that controls stimulation and excitement. But when people feel love or compassion the heart's rhythm is smooth. The slow rhythmic heart motion of love activates an area in the brain that allows you to feel calm and relaxed.

    How’s that?
    A real man, in the real world, with out a heart. May this change the way we all view Kingdom Hearts.
    Now, I understand that a game is different from real life, but I do have a point.
    I repeat: “It’s not the heart that creates the feeling of love, but the love itself in which creates the heart.â€
    This is my favorite quote.
    Just because the older, more experienced people/characters of KH said, “Nobodies can’t feel†doesn’t mean that they were right.
    If we (the human race) believed everything that was said by the older ‘wise’ men, we’d still believe that the sun was the center of the universe.
    Just because someone says that it’s true, doesn’t mean that it is.

    Twilight: *Not Availiable*
     
  3. Nova We left a scar size extra-large.

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    I think Demyx was the closest one to actually having a heart. He seemed to actually feel fear, happiness, and he seemed to truly feel bad for having to attack innocents.
     
  4. JustRob Traverse Town Homebody

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    They say they don't have hearts but they clearly show emotions. Roxas being the best example, but Axel too, and even Xemnas. (Anger is an emotion too)
     
  5. Bond of Flame I'm an alien

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    I think they can. Roxas definatly has a heart, I don't see why not. Axel, well, he felt like he had a heart, and you feel things with your heart. Demyx is also a close example. Even at the death scene of Luxord, I saw a small glimpse of regret in his eyes...
     
  6. Sonic the Hedgehog The Blue dude is back!!

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    But Roxas has a heart dude,they all show emotions,even Demyx,when he was like,"Run run away!"So they somewhat have feelings,whether they have hearts or not,I don't have a clue.
     
  7. JustRob Traverse Town Homebody

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    Well Roxas don't has to have a heart. They say Twilight Town is all an illusion
     
  8. Kaiionel Hollow Bastion Committee

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    It's clear that some of them can feel emotions--those are the nobodies that can remember what it felt like to have a heart. There's a huge difference between pretending to feel something and truly reacting to something. There were plenty examples of Roxas being angry, sad, guilty, etc. in Twilight Town, and when Axel thought Roxas remembered him, he got excited, then disappointed. The only nobodies I have seen express any sort of emotion are Vexen, Axel, Demyx, Roxas, and possibly Xion in the clips we've seen of her. I can't say anything for most of the members in Chain of Memories, since I haven't played the game.

    However, just because they can show emotions doesn't mean they have hearts. As I mentioned before, it's only possible because they remember having hearts.
     
  9. Daenerys Targaryen ok

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    They aren't supposed to,but it seems like they have feelings after all.
    It's kinda weird.
    Roxas seems to have emotions and so does Axel.
    He seems to think it's not fair, the way he is.
    And Demyx is emotional,it's kinda funny.
     
  10. Defame King's Apprentice

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    Yen Sid said Nobodies don't have hearts and can't portray emotions.
    But idk, Demyx was like whining when you defeat him,
    Axel and Roxas get all sad throughout the game..

    weird.
    :rockdover:
     
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