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Five news scans from KINGDOM HEARTS: Birth By Sleep were released and the questions are still being asked. Nomura confirmed that Roxas and Ven are very different, but what if something more happened? Is it possible that Ven and Roxas are the same character? Our member "TheVader74" (who recently worked with me on my KHV fandubs as Xemnas), came up with an amazing theory. The discussion started in our upcoming KH games, when I made a thread earlier, asking other members their take on the situation. As TheVader74 explained his theory, I later added to it. The whole theory is amazing and I think you guys will be interested in the topic. Below you can find the theories that TheVader74 and I made. Make sure you also view the whole thread to read other member theories by clicking the link. http://www.kh-vids.net/showthread.php?t=89187

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Posted by Mike
Alright, as I'm updating the main page with those new scans early last week, I've been annoyed about how much Ven looks like Roxas. So, I'm not the only one who thinks that. It's obvious that all of us think that. I mean, Ven has the same exact height, same eyes, same detailed hair color and almost the same clothes as Roxas. Nomura confirmed and said that these two characters are very different, but I don't know. I almost feel that he's just saying that.

I feel that it all connects. Roxas getting his name from Xemnas was one reason why I was getting this idea in my head. I mean what was his name first? I thought about that and then I wasn't sure. Roxas was born when Sora became a heartless. So it wouldn't make sence. Do we know for sure who the "friend" was? I thought it's Ven, but I wasn't sure because some other members said it was Aqua. It's obvious that we won't see Aqua, Terra and Ven again, right? These characters must have changed during that time period between Birth By Sleep and Kingdom Hearts: I.

As for Terra, he seems to appear like either Xigbar or Xemnas. Terra seems to be the one that is going after Master Xehanort the most. Seems a little odd? What about Aqua? Apparently she is a honor student and is very caring and trustworthy from the other two. While I translated that, the word "witch" came into play.

So, what do you think? Anything we can do to put the clues together and add it all up (laughs)? I just thought I would make an interesting thread. I'm interested in hearing what you guys think.

Posted by Vader74
Someday, this will all seem so obvious, we'll laugh at it.

Ok Let me think things through. Sora loses his heart, and thus, becomes a Heartless. While this happens, his Body and Soul are transported through the Dark Corridors, and end up in Twilight Town as Roxas. Sora in Hollow Bastion is returned to his human form by Kairi, who returns his heart to him, and thus we get Sora back. However, at this stage, Sora is basically just a heart. No body or soul. He remains in this status until KH2, where he is reunited with Roxas, thus becoming a complete being again.

Where can Ven come into the equation that would affect the appearance of Roxas and fit in this timeframe. I have a theory.

We see Ven on Destiny Islands, asking (presumably) Aqua, to "Erase [him]". In this case, he is erased, and is left as just a soul (I'm drawing this theory from TWEWY. Play it and you'll understand what I mean), which would get drawn into the Dark Corridors. This is where it would remain for 10 years. Then Sora's Body and Soul comes along. There is some connection between Sora and Ven that draws them together, thus replacing the soul inside Sora's body with Ven's. Sora's soul would then rejoin Sora with his heart via Kairi. I do not believe that Sora was just a walking heart for a year. Something would have needed to support it.

This probably has a few loopholes, but whatever, just my shrewd ideas on the matter. However, I was right about Xion, so I'm hoping I have the same run of luck.

Posted by Mike
I was thinking along those lines, but you seemed to nail a good theory. It's the only thing that would make sense. That image that I added was on purpose. I knew it was the scene where he asked to be erased. You tied the connections and that's the only way that Ven and Roxas could look so much alike. Roxas and Ven have the whole different personality, but it's so clear that their body is the same. It's just woud make sense when Ven was erased which later became Roxas. The connection would go further than that. Xemnas and Master Xehanort have some kind of connection. We know that Xigbar does, so that "old friend" has to point out to Ven. There were so many reasons why they got Roxas to join the Organization. Roxas is with someone that's from the past, Ven's empty shell?

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