I have my own theory too... I think that as a child, Sora saw Ventus and when he was turned into a heartless, he was remembering Ven, and all the memories and pictures of Ven that Sora had, were poured into Roxas, so when he turned into a heartless, another Ven was born. That describes why Roxas is like Ven/Sora, Axel is like Terra/Riku, and Xion is like Aqua/Kairi.

What I find wierd is that why Riku (after being enshrouded in darkness) didn't turn into a heartless himself and produce a nobody...lol.

Hmm, that is a really good theory. It makes sense, because Roxas looks nothing like Sora. So Roxas gets his form from Ven's soul, which is inside Sora... As far as I see it, it makes perfect sense.

Haha, thanks. I've had this theory for a long time, but if I randomly put it in a BBS thread, then it would look random. I waited for an opptertune moment.

Actually, I was talking about the one Mike posted, not yours.

i just have a question,
how can sora "create" roxas,
a person who looks NOTHING like him,

but how is ven tied into this, when ven was born BEFORE kh started?

ALSO!

sora wears shorts, roxas wears pants
sora dresses in black, roxas dresses in white,
black=heartless, white=nobody
sora turned into a heartless.
roxas is a nobody, "created" from sora.
spark anything at all?

then who is Xemnas (I think) talking about when he said "I've been to see him... he looks alot like you" in http://www.kh-vids.net/index.php?page=kh2cutv3# ?

Wow sounds very logical, exepts for one little thing, it all adds up in my Opinion.

For me, it would make more sense if Ven's Body and Heart were in the corridor of darkness and that Soras Soul had inhabited Ven's Body and Heart, giving Roxas his own heart and aswell as explain why he looks like Ven. That why Kairi could somehow called back Sora's body giving the Heart a vessel.
But if i think about it, Sora would've been dead if that were the case, seeing a body and heart with out a soul is dead in the KH universe... or maybe he got a part of Kairi's Soul or something.

Jesus, Mike!! It was just a spur of the moment theory... I never expected to make the front page with this stuff!! Anyway...

I can see what you're saying would make sense, however, Ven's Body and Heart existing withour his soul would just mean he would be Dead. I believe that Ansem has already said that a Soul cannot be destroyed, it can only leave the body when it dies. Bodies can be destroyed, and hearts are sent to Kingdom Hearts, so I doubt they could exist in the Dark corridors without being transported. Just BEING in a Dark Corridor erodes a persons heart. However, if a Soul is indestructible, then it could remain as a remnant in the corridors for years... But I still think your theory could hold some water.

ANYWAY!! Uh, thanks Mike, I guess... I really wasn't expecting this, so yeah... Like I said in the other thread, I was right about Xion when I theorized (roughly, I was about 75% right, all things considered...), so I have a good feeling about this.

This could actually work because it would be another reason why Sora could wield the keyblade, when Riku was chosen. I know that's because of the door to darkness on the islands and Riku's darkness and all. but it could still back it up.

Yeah that makes sense, if Ven's heart was in there for too long it would of became a heartless or just ended up in Kingdom Hearts I didn't think of that. And seeing, that we know almost nothing about the soul, it leaves us more options to make theories about. But how did Roxas end up with a heart, did the soul of Ven call back its heart back?

I think Aqua is also connected to Sora because she looks a little like Xion

yes but remember that

Spoiler

Xion was based off of sora's memories of kairi. And in the end Xion looked like sora. So how could she be connected to sora? more like connected to kairi.

So Ven just waits until a viable host comes along, sees Sora's body becoming a nobody and jumps into it, thus rebirthing himself, yes? Unless 358/2 days proves that can't happen what with every continuities different laws on magic. I haven't played 358/2 days and am waiting to play and am trying not to read about it online, so I have no idea what new rules it states, or if it draws any connection between Roxas and Ven, however subtle. I think I lost track of what I was saying. Meh.

Hi there, it's been more than a year since my last visit here. I noticed this thread on the homepage and the theory has stimulated my curiosity. So I read and reason along on it, but some points don't convince me at all.

I think so too. It would be a little too much for Sora continuing living with his Heart only and without Body nor Soul. But I suppose that neither the only Soul could be enough for it. I guess that Sora and Roxas are sharing a part of the same Body and Soul. Sora reborn as a human just at the same time as Roxas was birthing as a Nobody. Due to become a human again Sora takes away a part of his Body and Soul from Roxas who was using them for his own birth. The two boys became respectively a Human and a Nobody at the same instant and through the same Body and Soul.

Let's also think about what happens at the end of KH2, when Sora and Roxas return the same being: Sora would suppose to have two Souls at that time? I difficulty think so at the moment.

I'm pretty sure that the influence of Ven with Sora and the Roxas look is connected with something else than the Soul. Maybe the Ven essence exists in anyway within the Sora's Heart? Maybe something more has happened after the scene of a BbS trailer in which Terra (if I well remember) was looking at the young Sora and Riku playing on the beach.

Ah, sorry for my bad english, I'm Italian :P

i think that ven was a relitive to sora such as a uncle or maby even a father and some of vens traits went to sora and the rest went to roxas. so thats also a reason why sora got the keyblade ( he inharited it) watta think

hey , this is a new game, so they might have a different angle to BBS

TOLD!

That was cold, man..

i do know that ven's heart gets corrupted by darkness and the only way to get it back was to give up.so i think he asked to be erased to get his heart back but when his heart came back it had no body to go to so went to sora(im not sure why but i also think this is the reason riku is supposed to be the keyblade master in number one to protect ven's heart)anyway when sora's heart was released so was vens and they both created roxas then sora got his heart back even though roxas still has his heart.He could have kept ven's heart or it may because he met sora.
its a risky idea so i doubt its right

i too have my own theory's but im gonna keep them all to myself. and let Disney and Square do there thing