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  1. Hayabusa Venomous

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    You forget the part where Anakin kinda betrayed everyone who trusted in him and killed a bunch of innocent people (like the Jedi apprentice children) and effectively helped kill off the Jedi.

    I'm pretty sure he didn't have many other alternatives, especially after Palpatine saved him after his fight with Obi-Wan (WHICH WAS AWESOME.)

    Also, Anakin's love for Padme and desire to protect her was only part of his motivation for joining with Palpatine: he also straight up wanted power, no matter whom he gained it from (see: the Opera House scene.) Were Anakin only in it to keep Padme alive, and was genuinely filled with good intent, you'd think he'd stop there, wouldn't you? But he didn't stop; Anakin was selfish too. Thus, why after he's lost the one person whom he swore to protect, he went on to become a powerful ruler (Palpatine being one of the only people not trying to kill him at that point.)

    Still, there are many, many flaws with Revenge of the Sith, but there are also many good things that came from it in my opinion.
     
  2. A Zebra Chaser

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    I didn't forget that, it just doesn't seem like the sort of thing that would inspire devotion in the Emperor. Blame, maybe, for misleading him.

    I see people make the argument that Anakin is power hungry, but if that's the case they did an awful job conveying that, because I never got that vibe from him. As far as I can tell, the two key flaws that undid him were his temper and his overly emotional attachment to his loved ones

    Much of the early stuff involving Anakin and Palpatine operate under the assumption that Anakin trusts him, but the side effect of this would mean that Anakin would know ALL of the things Palpatine had lied about up until then WERE lies. Killing his wife in a fit of rage and then nearly dying doesn't exactly seem like it would lead to the logicla conclusion of serving the person who set all this up devoutly for decades
     
  3. 61 No. B

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    And it was established earlier in the movie that he was becoming more and more dissatisfied with the council and order. For entirely superficial reasons, yes,but his fear of Padme's death, plus his growing hatred towards the Jedi before leaving them, plus everything you said are enough for me to buy what he did. Not necessarily trying to kill Padme, but when that happened I always assumed he was just so lost with everything that he had already done, and since the thing that set him off was Obi-Wan, it seemed entirely reactionary and not logical at all.i think thats the point
     
  4. Hayabusa Venomous

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    Eh, I guess how that stuff all looked depends on the viewer. To me, it was obvious from Episode II onward that Anakin wanted to gain more and more power, beyond what he'd need to protect Padme. and I don't think that Anakin trusting Palpatine at all means that he'd know Palpatine's lies; just because you trust someone doesn't mean they're gonna open up to you, even if you do open up to them.

    Exactly my point. Of all the issues with the prequels' writing, Anakin turning to the Dark Side was perhaps the best part in my opinion. I also liked their showing of a younger Obi-Wan who was intellectual and strong, though not without fault.
     
  5. A Zebra Chaser

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    I'm not talking about Palpatine telling Anakin he lied, just that many of the lies he told don't add u when you find out he's a Sith.