Becoming Immortal by Cloning

hey, i will try it, and watch me live forever , ok fine, HALF joking

 

Yes, it could be possible to accelerate things, but again, the point is that if the body is a living being...it's alive. Sure, if it had no brain, it might just be a 'machine' in a way, but if it can be sentient and alive on its own, that is what I refer to as a murder.

Also, the only real way to accelerate growth and to be able to stop it would seem to be through understanding the 'aging' disease on the cellular level and figuring a cure for that. If one could do such, we could raise our own life expectancies quite a bit and then cloning would only be needed again...for organs and blood. So really, to me, clones to transfer thoughts to doesn't seem to be a necessity really in just about any fashion except perhaps when faced with the dilemma of some great physical trauma that is non-curable, like multiple sclerosis or arthritis that will just debilitate the person with pain. However, even now with stem cell research, they are making great discoveries on how to help vast neurological conditions like MS and Alzheimer's so I'm not sure really how much of transferring to another body people would need. I also cannot be sure that people could deal with a virtual immortality as it is. Look at how bad situations are with Social Security because of the huge population of elderly over the amount of other ages of people. Then again...if they could stay young, they could work. However, our whole society etc would have to be thought out for these eventualities and man, my mind just opened up a whole new can of worms.

 

I read somewhere, or else someone told me, that our cells have a mehcanism that kills them. So our bodies are programmed to die =/ The only problem with raising the life expectancy (or making people 'immortal') and not sufficiently lowering the birth rate would be the massive over-crowding that would occur. There is a big enough problem now with all of the baby boomers retiring and there aren't enough people coming into work to pay for their pensions. This means taxes will go up =/

This could all lead to enforced euthanasia, like in Soylent Green............

 

I also forgot to mention this guy got this info from aliens.....yes, aliens. :/
(why did they let him have a show on the science channel?!!!)

 

Wherever, it doesn't really matter. It still created a topic of discussion.

(And I'm not one to be all ALIENS with the whole arm-flailing, I doubt we're the only living species but I also have HIGH DOUBTS that aliens would "tell him this"....Most likely I think he got the idea from a "biological USB" you know?)

 

Why would you want to live forever? All youd see is the world chang into a mankinds rubbish tip, for they only want life not death, and that is something mankind will never be able to stop, death comes for all, whether old or young, it all goes in one direction. All paths lead to a death.

 

It would just plain suck to live forever!! I mean come on!! Being imortal sounds cool but we know it wouldn't be. Think if you're the only one immortal you would see all you friends and family die and think of all the grief and if we all are immortal we would over populate teh earth. And that's not good either!!

 

Technically, you couldn't be immortal, what if you got killed normally? I don't see anything wrong with it though. It would just be awkward.

 

i think it's impossible. cause if you clone yourself,it's NOT you, it's a clone, there's only 1 of you, and no matter what, it's NEVER you. so it's impossible to be immortal, except through maybe...written record, or paintings, but that's not the exact "immortality" were talkin about. so no, impossible, cause it'll never be exactly you. no matter how perfect it may seem, it's just never exactly you.

 

Well I personally think it's a bad idea. Firstly, cloning is a huge process and lots of measures must be taken. Secondly, most countries banned cloning of Animals, so there'd be no reason y they would shift to humans anytime soon. Third, wat's the point of living forever? And Fourth, 1 word summary on y I don like the idea: Boredom!

 

If you cloned yourself, it's not technically you. It's just a carbon copy of yourself. Not to mention it is more than likely that the clone would want their own identity and to walk their own journey in life.

 

You wouldn't be immortal though xD because even if it was an replicate of your DNA etc etc there would still be changes, sure they might have your "downloaded memories" but it still wouldn't be "you" it would be a copy of you. I personally find the idea of human cloning to be quite creepy 0_0

..and that is ALSO a very good point.

experiences shape us and make us who we are, so the clone would become their own person anyway and no longer be like you.​

 

Many of the science fiction theories involve human shells being 'grown' having no cognitive ability and therefore no personality. Like a blank CD or something. It is just a storage medium. Then the personality, experiences, memories and everything else that makes you you is 'downloaded' (for lack of a better word) into the new body.

 

I have to say, trying to achieve cloning, just to clone things, is not what I call smart, I mean alot of people talking about cloning is talking about is people abusing it and creating armies of people to fight other people. a weaqpon of war really, not to mention the fact like others have said, the clone woul most probably want to be independent and its own person.

I aslo think the mental strain about being a clone would have to hurt, incredibly, just imagine you were told you were a clone, it just makes you feel worthless and used.

 

That's another fact about science, it has many possible applications. Not all of them are good. There will always be less than savoury applications and we have to weigh them against the beneficial applications.

Like with nuclear power, they saw the benefits of power plants but there was also the threat of weapons. Unfortunately as it was during a period of war they went with the military side.

As for the mental strain it would be a consequence the person being cloned would have to accept. They would know the risks and the dangers, so it would be their choice to go ahead with it or not.

 

I have a quite open-minded science teacher at my school, he usually likes to research about intresting things about life on other planets, evolution, and so on, and recently he talked about cloning and about the mental strain on someone who is cloned, because though we have cloned other animals, a human brain would not receive knowledge of being cloned well, espicially if it was the first of its kind, because the human mind as he describes it is like a computer, which I talked to him abou a while ago, and if a computer recieves a distressing piece of information, like a deadly virus, to pritect its self it shuts dawn and that would most likely happen to a clone aswell.

 

The brain does that with most forms of trauma. If you receive massive amounts of pain to a level you have never experienced before your brain will shut down to protect itself i.e. you pass out/faint.

With cloning they would have to have trials. It will proabably be the same as organ transplants. They will have drugs that increase the change of the doner organ being accepted by the body.

 

First off,if i had a clone i'd leave it lead it's own life.Second off,A clones age excelerates by double every year so if you clone yourself age 14,next year it would be 28.Third off it is illegal to clone a human because the cloning might do something to the clones like give it a Disease or alter it's original DNA.If that does happen they can't kill the clone because thats murder.A frenchmen has aclaimed that he's cloned himself but nothings been proven.

 

Wow, you're humane, but why not just have a child if you're going to do that? That would not make sense. The purpose of cloning is to duplicate yourself or another for the purpose of having them live longer or healthier than they normally would. So letting it lead it's own life would be pointless. As for the rest of your argument, I'd like to see sources, becuase I've never heard anything about a clone's age doubling like that or about any French person claiming to have cloned them self and I really don't believe it.
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Its useless to clone humans! The more humans we have, the more food we will consum more food than ever! It would be more smart to clone animals than cloning humans.

Why would someone wants to be cloned? Clones grow faster than normal humans, so it would be like every 5 years I would have a to buy a clone, and a clone ain't cheap ya know!