Chain of Memories Axel Too Harsh?

I know it's a game, and I know he's a bad guy. But Axel makes me angry. I can't stand bad guys, even in games. In my opinion he's not cool, I can't stand him. Maybe I'm a bit oversensible, but why can't I think so?

 

He wasn't harsh, he was doing his job. He was told to get rid of any traitors and Axel got rid of them, he betrayed half of the Organization, Marluxia, Larxene, Vexen and Zexion.

 

....I think Axel was harsh...But he was doing his job after all...
I totally agree with you when you said that he's kinda likable and friendly on KHII :)

 

You know what?If Axel stayed the same way in RE:CoM,maybe people would stop with the motherf***ing yaoi about him.I say it everyday,AXEL IS NOT GAY!

 

O.o Woah...anger much? But yes...all the yaoi is insane...I may be an AkuRoku fan...but that doesn't mean I want to see all the mushy ****....

 

He was harsh because he was trying to protect Roxas, and he was ordered to take them out. That was basically why he was in Castle Oblivion. I don't think he was overly harsh. Just right!

 

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Axel's harshness in CoM was one of my favourite factors about him, and what made me love his character.

 

I honestly think he was harsher in COM. In my opinion, the writers weren't sure about what they wanted to do with Axel. Perhaps he was originally meant to be a character more like Saix, completely sociopathic and manipulative.

(Hears Axel retching in the background at the thought of almost being Saix)

But he actually seemed a bit less harsh in the remake. In paticular I remember the line he says to Marluxia when flower-boy hides behind Namine. Something to the effect of "You think that's gonna stop me, hell, I'll kill your little mascot too and you can both sink into oblivion." In the remake the line is shortened to "You think that's gonna stop me?"

I pondered the Vexen and Zexion murders myself for a while, because it seemed weird for Axel to kill someone and not directly get something out of it. Even if it was to gain Marluxia's trust and to further his mission for the other Orgy members, Axel doesn't seem to me the type to follow orders unquestioningly. He always has his own agenda. So I wondered why he would bother with Vexen and Zexion. Or why he would even care about foiling Marluxia's plan.

But than I remembered the dusks from KHII, and a lightbulb popped over my head. I figured that the policy with the Orgy is that if you fail, your *** is grass. And if you're ordered to kill the failure and refused to, you can join said failure in the *** grassitude. I think I remember Marluxia saying Vexen's replica was a bust and Vexen begging him not to tell Xemnas. I suppose you either get an A or you flunk, which says a lot for the still living members of XIII.

In other words, for Axel, it's kill or be killed, and the only reason he wasn't sent to kill Larxene and Lexaeus was because they were already dead. Zexion wasn't a traitor, but he wasn't able to defeat Riku.

As for Axel in KHII....nobody's picked up on it yet. I'd die to see a fanfic about the darker nature of AkuRoku's relationship.

People say Axel became a lot softer in KHII, but has anyone noticed the nature of Roxas' and Axel relationship? Did Axel want Roxas around because he cared about him, or because the kid was like a drug? His element was light, after all, and being around the kid may have been the closest thing he had to a heart. There's even hints that Axel was hoping to turn Sora back into a heartless so that Roxas would be with him again. Now, I still have mixed feelings about the whole 'mirging/whole/lose your identity/ thing that comes with the nobodies and somebodies, but if you cared about someone, would you ruin their lives just to see them again? I wonder....

To me, the AkuRoku relationship is heartbreaking, but there's so much to Axel that just seems....possesive. As if he couldn't bare to let the kid go, no matter what happened. Like if he was just a wee bit crazier he'd have the Key of Destiny locked down in his basement somewhere, where he'd never be able to get out.

 

I don't think Axel was being harsh. All of the Nobodies at Castle Oblivion were doing things and being pretty rotten to one another, as well as Sora and Riku. Axel was a wildcard and he was also the assassin for the Org and was given an order. He didn't really care about killing Vexen and why are people saying he should have been -nicer- about it? If you have to kill someone, you'd just want to get it over with so Vexen's death to me seemed appropriate for an assassin to do. Also, Sora was right there so the strategy would be to deal with it swiftly so that Axel didn't also have to fight Sora too. That could have sucked, no?

As for why he killed Zexion, or had the Riku Replica do it, is because he knew that 1. the Riku Replica was going to have to die because of how messed up he became with Namine's mind games that Vexen and Marluxia encouraged, and so he knew how to get rid of him, which was to build him up and have Riku take him out. That was so planned. Zexion was not a nice guy. He did try to break Riku and then murder him. That -was- Zexion's plan. Also, after all that Axel had had to do with choices, Zexion had to die. I seriously doubt Axel could have let anyone in the Org live to tell this tale because all of them had foolishly messed with Riku and Sora for personal gain and really at the end it was such a mess, if only he was there to recount things, he might -live-. It was about survival there in the end, as well as being committed to carry out his orders.

Axel really I doubt cared that much for either of the two kids but in the end he knew that what was going on was pointless and it may even be that Xemnas wanted Axel there to get rid of the traitors. After all, anyone who was actually working on plots for Xemnas was out doing them while Marluxia and Vexen both were doing unscrupulous things Xemnas may have figured out early before he went to take his nap. I do think that Zexion, Lexaeus and Larxene kind of were caught up in it all though but they chose their sides. Axel went with no one because he knew it was all going to be stupid and so he played a survivor's game to get around it. He did not really -care- for them and probably would have wished to be anywhere else at the time. However, being as super adaptable as he was, he played his game and ended up on top. Even Xemnas in KH2:FM makes a comment that Axel is a wild card and no one is sure absolutely what he's up to. After his experiences at Castle Oblivion, he did not really tone down though.

Axel was driven in KH2 to try to get Roxas back because he did believe the Nobodies, despite having no Hearts, did have their own lives separate of the whole person so to him, losing Roxas was like Roxas dying. Since Roxas seemed to be the only one he cared about truly, though he did not mind Namine so much, it makes sense that he was going to try to get him back, and yes, he was obsessive about it, which annoyingly makes a ton of stupid RoxasxAxel pairings. Axel was a driven sort of person to survive himself, so of course he'd be that motivated to do the same for Roxas, but in the end he learned that Roxas was better off where he was supposed to be and so helped Sora. I don't consider he was more wussy in KH2 but just more exhausted in the end because he was facing so much soul searching as well as surviving because Saix was trying to get him or get Sora to off Axel and Axel knew it. Axel did have a fear of the Org which was pretty clear when he told Roxas not to leave. All in all, I liked the character and his growth and don't consider him a puss as some people had said, but yes, he became more of a 3-dimensional character in KH2 instead of just being a wild card with no motivations at all.

 

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Axel was sent to the Castle for a mission. To kill the traitors. That is not a problem for him since he wasn't close to any of the other members in the castle, now if it was Roxas it would have changed because that would mean he would have to kill off his best friend.

In COM, Axel did not hesitate to kill Zexion or Vexen, yet if he was that cold of a killer than why did he hesitate to kill Roxas? Simple, they were best friends. Axel was 'sad' to know that Roxas forgotten everything about their 'friendship.' Axel didn't want to resort to violence because he believe he could save Roxas from emerging with Sora.

Now, if Axel was best friends with Zexion, would he had the strength to kill him? That we will never know. But as we can see in KH2 and COM, he is a risk taker, someone who watches what happens and judge it before making his next move, someone who likes not to give a direct answer, someone who doesn't pick sides till the last moment. For all we know, his personality is kinda shroud in mystery because he is always changing and different.

We know that Larxene is cold and cruel because she always acts like that. We know that Saix is extremely loyal to Xemnas because we can see that Saix is close the Superior.

But Axel changes. He is cruel, twisted, kinda cold hearted in COM; but in KH2, he is more kind and puzzling. Like he had a personailty flip.

But that what made Axel more reaslitic. He changes unlike everyone else around him. Kairi is still stubborn and sweet. Sora is still naive and too nice for his own good. In reality, no one stays the same, their personality changes depending on the effects of the world around them. Besides, a lot things can happen in one year...

I hope we can find more answers in KH 365/2, maybe they'll talk about what happened in the Castle.