Atheists intolerant?

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  1. Patsy Stone Мать Россия

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    Wrong, fundamentalists are far worse by the simple fact that they have no basis in fact for their beliefs. You are unable to sway them or change their opinions using logic and evidence (as you should be able to with any sane person). Whereas with an atheist, they may be passionate in their "beliefs" (I hate that word >_>) but if you present them with incontrovertible evidence in contradiction to what they see to be true then they will change their minds. Because atheists are lead by evidence and fundamentalist theists are led by what someone tells them. The two are completely different.
     
  2. Enigmatic Boy Twilight Town Denizen

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    Lead by what evidence though? There isn't any evidence that God doesn't exist.
     
  3. TheMagicalMisterMistoffelees Professional Crazy

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    Have fun with your intolerance there, man.
     
  4. childofturin Why?

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    There is, however, plenty of evidence for most scientific theories that either disprove the events in the Bible, or make them nothing more than ordinary. There is also more than enough evidence chronicling the violence, corruption, and depravity in the Christian religion as a whole.
     
  5. Crumpet In your shadow, I can shine!

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    I've found Atheists to be more accepting of other religions. I'm atheist, and I've found that it's religious people who are more likely to be intolerent.

    It does get annoying when they try to force their religion on you.
     
  6. Enigmatic Boy Twilight Town Denizen

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    I never said there wasn't. Read my post before that. As for the violence, corruption and depravity in the Christian religion, I wouldn't deny that either. In fact, the Church reckons that some of the stuff that happened before was wrong anyway. Times change, what might have been seen as acceptable before is definitely not acceptable now, and vice versa. After all, while people with faith may believe in a higher being that is infallible, many religions are governed by completely fallible human beings.
     
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    I met an Athiest a couple weeks ago. She didn't name herself an 'athiest' just simply stated that she doesn't believe in religion. But, she also was interested in what I had to tell her about religion. She found it amazing, and just asked questions. Of course, I couldn't answer all of them, but she seemed interested.

    If athiests are intolerant well that's not your fault. Its what they see the world as. I'm guessing there might be people in the world that walk around yelling "Screw the world!". You can't stop them, if that's what they want to do, then let them.

    I wouldn't force an athiest to believe that my religion is the right one and all the others are bullshit. It all depends on what the person's beliefs are. In that, I mean how they see the world. What their views on life are. It's their decision, not yours, so don't make it for them.
     
  8. Patsy Stone Мать Россия

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    The burden of evidence falls on those trying to prove, not those trying to disprove. I.e. Theists have to find evidence (real evidence, not holy texts) to back up their claim that there is a higher power.

    It's not intolerance, it's a simple observation based on how theists are taught to think and how atheists are taught to think. Intolerance implies close-mindedness when atheists are anything but.

    Theists lack the ability to be truly open-minded by the simple fact that religion tends to not let them be.
     
  9. TheMagicalMisterMistoffelees Professional Crazy

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    Right, so you're not being intolerant, you just don't like religious people because they don't want to be atheist.

    Makes perfect sense.
     
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    I love how you called Atheists accepting and then just generalized religious people​
     
  11. Patsy Stone Мать Россия

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    LOL I never said I don't like theists. I don't like religion. Biggggg difference there. I would prefer it if people didn't believe in a higher power, but I'm not going to condemn them to eternal pain and suffering and say that they don't deserve the same rights as other human beings.
     
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  13. Patsy Stone Мать Россия

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    What of that says I dislike theists? All I was saying is that intolerance in theists is caused by their faith preventing them from being anything but. In an atheist they are driven by evidence and evidence would change their mind.

    As has been obvious over the years, evidence has no effect on the beliefs of a theist. No matter how obvious and undeniable the evidence is.
     
  14. TheMagicalMisterMistoffelees Professional Crazy

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    See, it's things like that that get me, because my religion is somewhere halfway between hardcore Christianity and Atheism where God meets logic meets science.
     
  15. Patsy Stone Мать Россия

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    That sounds like no religion I've ever come across xD I tend to concentrate on Christians when I refer to theists as they are the prevalent group in the UK and America.

    But when 40% of Americans think the world is less than 10,000 years old and in the literal story of Creation you understand why atheists have to be so vocal and aggressive. We'd be back in the Dark Ages otherwise (which, incidentally, were caused by the Catholic Church :lolface: )
     
  16. TheMagicalMisterMistoffelees Professional Crazy

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    [​IMG]

    But in all honesty, I will admit that most forms of Christianity do tend to do things like this. I was only arguing you because I thought you were being intolerant.

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  17. Patsy Stone Мать Россия

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    I took that statistic (and I know, I hate statistics too. But some people won't listen to your point of view unless you throw in a few percentage signs >_>) from a factual book, published this year.

    The percentage is less in the UK, but still disturbingly high :(

    Also, it's okay chum :3
     
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    The thing is, there has not been much evidence that can disprove many of a theists' beliefs. Especially about the beliefs about what morals we should adopt, and what rules we should follow to be good people. Therefore, you can't really say that evidence has no effect on the beliefs of a theist.
     
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    HEY GUYS WONDERFUL NEWS FOR THE ATHEISTS WE JUST FOUND SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE THAT KILLING PEOPLE AND COMMITTING ADULTERY ARE ACTUALLY REALLY GOOD THINGSa
     
  20. Enigmatic Boy Twilight Town Denizen

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    Didn't you read my post before? I never said those things were good, I'm pretty sure even the Catholic Church doesn't agree with them now. Times change. What might have been seen as acceptable before is definitely not acceptable now, and vice versa. The God of the Old Testament was very different from the God of the New Testament. Both Testaments had different writers, and the New Testament talked about when Jesus arrived. Most of the Christian beliefs stem from the New Testament, when Jesus preached love and acceptance of everyone. One of the only parts, that Christians believe in now, from the Old Testament is the part with the Ten Commandments. And FYI, the Church never ever said, not even in the Old Testament, that Adultery was good. Thats why the punishments for it were really harsh (why the hell do you think Mary Magdalene nearly got freaking stoned to death by the townspeople?)