Birth by Sleep Another Theory on Birth By Sleep

I recently re watched some cut scenes and reread the Ansem reports and started to form ideas using other people’s ideas. The questions am making theories on are
1a) Terra is Xemnas/Xehanort
b) The connection between Castle Oblivion and the room of sleep
2) How Ven's heart is in Sora
3) What happened to Aqua
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Here are the facts that help prove of the Theories that I am about to present.
Secret Ansem Report 10
I believe that Naminé was born as a special type of nobody when Sora attacked himself with the Keyblade, causing his and Kairi's hearts to leave their bodies simultaneously.
Naminé emerged as Kairi's Nobody...but the body and soul necessary to exist as a Nobody belonged to Sora. When a person's heart is stolen, a Heartless is born with no sense of self, and the body and soul left behind give rise to a Nobody.But what if one willingly releases one's heart from one's body?
Sora and Xehanort retained their selfhood even after becoming Heartless.
Then there are Kairi and Naminé.
Kairi was exceptional for having had no darkness within her heart. Also exceptional was that her heart, once freed, migrated to a new vessel—Sora.

There is also the cut scene "The New Headquarters". The conversation between Zexion and Xigbar about the secret of Xemnas and the room of sleep. I suggest watching it to remember everything about the conversation
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1a) How Terra is Xehanort.
Near the end of BBS after ven gave his heart away Terra was at a crossroads. He wanted his friend back really badly and didn’t know how to get him back. So he went to Master Xehanort because he probably knew how to bring him back. So Terra is doing these actions because of his friend, not because he is evil. Its just like what Riku did in the first Kingdom Hearts and Riku and Terra are very similar. Then Terra lost his memories from the darkness or by Aqua or some other source. After he lost his memories Mater Xehanort told him that his name (terra's name)was Xehanort and to seek Kingdom Hearts and the door of awakening to bring back his memories to save his friend. (Master Xehanort is using Terra for his own evil purposes, probably to get Kingdom Hearts). So that would be way Xehanort betrayed Ansem, to get more power to rescue Ven and maybe Aqua.
1 b) Xigbar and Zexion were wondering the connection between Castle Oblivion and the room of Sleep.
Sora got his memories back because Namine helped him while he was asleep for a while. The Key words are Namine and sleep. Xemnas wanted to do testing about memories so he could bring back his own. So he sent some of him members and started doing research about memories at Castle Oblivion with Namine. They found out about sleeping and how that helps with memory. So then Xemnas was using the room of Sleep to try to bring back his lost memories. He started to remember Aqua and that’s why he was talking to her and calling her friend. He still has a lot to remember so that is why he is doing more tests at Castle oblivion and sleeping more.
On a side note, he is probably talking to Master Xehanort in the Room Of Sleep and learning about the past. Also i am guessing that Master Xehanort will be the villain in Kingdom Hearts 3.
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2) Ven willingly gave his heart to Sora.
Ven probably knew his time was near so he gave his heart to who he thought will be the next hero whiich was Sora. Sora then had 3 hearts inside of him and that would be how Kari, Sora and Roxas all got a heart. I am guessing Ven didnt want to give his heart to the darkness because he didn’t want to be a pawn for Master Xehanort so he choose to give his heart (power) to the next generation. So then they could fight and destroy Master Xehanort. (This sounds a lot like Naruto btw......) He willingly gave up his heart so no heartless or nobody was created. This was one of Ansems biggest questions on what happens when someone chooses to give up their heart.
Also Master Xehanort probably told Terra that Ven died but can get his heart back instead of Ven giving away his heart. So that is why Terra went to Master Xehanort because he didn’t know what Ven did. This is probably all according to Master Xehanorts plan.
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3) What became of Aqua?
I have 2 theories behind this. 1. She became a heartless and her nobody is the 14th member of the organization. Or she became a special nobody and her heart went into Kairi or something.
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So it is finally done, my second theory. Hope you all enjoyed it. Also hopefully it doesn’t sound like a very bad fan fic.

 

Two large theories today.I'm impressed by your and i'm not easy to impressed by theories.My own theories might disagree but i agree on one thing...that history will repeat itself in the form of Terra turning to darkness and the asemblance of the princesses of hearts.

 

dido...very nicly done!

and with the whole Terra history repeat...totaly agree

something tells me weve seen some of this stuff before ;D

i am just alittle worried that its just that. a repeat of a similar story line. but honestly i think Terra is a much less complex charater than Riku.

but that is yet to be seen.

 

I'm not sure about !b, 2 and 3, but just recently I thought about 1a.
His hair looks like Terra's, only white. When talking to Aqua's armor in the Old Friend video, he, well, refers to it as friend.
And in the New Headquearters video, they talk about him looking for the Room of Awakening to find another friend, possibly Ven.
The only name he remembered was Xehanort, which also the name of who Terra was fighting.

 

Very nice theroies. *applause* The thing is an Unbirth might be created when one person willingly gives up their heart. Then again thats how Namine and Roxas were created so that cancels that theroy

 

Good theories
But i don't fully agree with them,i actually think that the room of Awakening is on Castle Oblivion and that's what Xigbar and the others were talking about.
If you don't remembert,Sora went to Twilight Town just after Riku left Castle Oblivion,so that sugests your theory is a bit wrong.
And thjere's also the unbirth thing,but it's impossible that there are so many if you're correct,and how MX would summon them?
Besides,you remember Sora sttabing himself with a Keyblade right?
I don't remember any Unbirth coming out of him.

 

You have careful read the Ansem reports, and I am very impressed with this theory. It explains a lot and it has great evidence. (Trust me, your theories are better than mine).
So, this was an enjoyable theory to read, and I think you may be onto something in a few sections. Like how Terra is Xehanort.

 

Where is the Room of Sleep? The the last mystery of all the games is in that cutscene. What is that room. Who goes in. Who's armor is on the ground.

 

1 - A sealed room?
2 - Xemnas and maybe Ansem the wise
3 - Aqua's

 

Impressive. I think I'm actually gonna agree with this.

 

No, it doesn't sound like a very bad fan fic at all. This actually has loads of proof. Amazing theory.

 

connection betwwen terra and roxas

when roxas fights the dusk in front of the mansion the firts time. he summons the kingdom key the same way terra does in one of the trailers. i believe that when terra fused with ds or mx he had temporary control of himself and fused sora and ven with mx or ds's power. thats also why sora can wield the keyblade. not to forget i heard from somewhere online that each of the apprentices took a path four paths. four crossroads.
ven = path to twilight
aqua = path to light
terra = path to ?
ds or mx = path to darkness
the same crossroads are in front of castle oblivion. the place where riku, mickey and ansem the wise met. the only path missing was terra's.
sunset horizons = castle oblivion. this also eliminates the theory that riku got the gayblade from sunset horizons

 

theory

this the 4th time i've posted this. did anybody notice that the first time you fight a dusk the cutscene that shows the way roxas summoned his keyblade. its the same way as terra did in the birth by sleep. terra fused with either ds or mx and he used as much power as he could to take control of the ds or mx side to fuse a injured ven and sora. thats why sora can wield the keyblade. when xehanort lost his heartthe ds or mx side lost its heart because it was the stronger side same with sora and ven but the terra side regained form but as a spirit. he came through sand in the cutscene. terra = land
also i heard from somewhere that each apprentice took a path. 4 crossroads.
aqua = path to light
ven = path to twilight
ds or mx = path to darkness
terra = path to ?
the same crossroads are in the front of castle oblivion where mickey. diz (ansem), and riku met except terra's path wasn't ther because he probably took the path that the unbirths used, thats why it wasn't there. castle oblivion = sunset horizons

 

The Keyblade that appared in Roxas hand was made of Data,and it's a lot diferent from the way Terra summons his.
And also,i'm sorry,but this theory isn't good to me,and you also don't show any proof on the last part.

 

This is what i said when you reposted this on the other thread except i left out a bit:

 

It does not. Excellent job, Ximecky. I honestly cannot find many flaws in this.

If I do find some minute ones, I'll attempt to post them.

 

my theory

yes but the paths that you see at the end of reverse rebirth shows ansem giving riku the question do you chooose the path to light or darkness and riku says i'll take the middle. ansem says the path to twilight and then riku says the way or path i cant remeber or to dawn. i see what people meant by the data keyblade but what about those other times. besides im only 14 im not smart