Kingdom Hearts II Another look at KH:FM+ SE Keyblades.

Discussion in 'Kingdom Hearts HD II.5 ReMIX' started by yhorian, Apr 18, 2007.

  1. yhorian Moogle Assistant

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    Here's a thread based on the slowed-down version of the Secret ending. Many people have done frame-by-frame analysis and this bit of genius helps those of us who can't be bothered breaking it down ;)

    I use this version of the slow-down. Its nicely unbiased and uses the original sound.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm6DEwWQKoY

    A few holes remain in what we 'know'. I use the term loosely, because in reality we know nothing - but we'd like to think we've guessed right!

    Keyblades:

    1. The keyblades featured are chainless but effectively serve as swords and magic focuses. There is a chain present on mickeys, and the dark keyblade in the video.

    2. No one is using 'dual keyblades'.

    3. The only keyblades that aren't really bland, are the ones with chains and DH's. The only keyblade 'summoned' to the hand is baldy's.

    4. Baldy turns his keyblade into the dark ball that he fires into the sky to make the 'moon' (its too flat in my opinoin, more like a symbol in the sky).

    5. The frozen keyblade breaks. Although its wielder is dead, it suggests some kind of mortality to the dull looking keyblades. Remember, the keyblade might be bonded to a person but its a seperate entity and can be passed on. Read below for more on that.

    What we know about keyblades is very limited. Clearly Sora's is one of a unique set. We've seen other keyblades that exhibit his power - doing spectacular things that a normal sword could not (although reference KH1 and Riku unlocking Malificents heart - How does that blade work? Where does it come from?).

    At the same time, there are moments when characters wield two. One for each hand.

    The first person I know that did this is Roxas in the KH2 trailer 'Another side, another story'. He stands amongst heartless, in TWTNW and a nobody symbol forms underneath him.

    You'll notice that in the KH2:FM+ added sequence between Riku and Roxas when Riku is again defeated. Roxas grabs Rikus' dark keyblade and summons his own. There's always the chance such appearance are for marketing purposes and break canon but again there's the chance its related to a solid underlying theory.

    Keyblades can be taken/stolen. They have changed hands, they have been passed on. Despite this, there appears to be a strong underlying bond between what they keyblade wants and who wields it. This means that the keyblade, while it is most often hidden and summoned by its wielder, is a physical thing that can be passed on. The fact that both Roxas AND Sora can have a keyblade suggests that it can also be split by such phenomenom as heartless/nobody creation. Notice this happening in the video above: When baldy creates a heartless looking knight it has a copy of a keyblade. (Although this means Baldy is a person with no heart - its been said you have to have a heart to wield a keyblade) Very confusing that part but thankfully the dark helmets has no chain. It could well be a 'mundane' keyblade. Its nice to note Roxas' summoned keyblade DOES have a chain.

    Keyblades that appear in 'dual mode', while often sporting keychains, appear to be linked to something other than the wielder. The exeption is KH2:FM+'s extra form which requires nothing for Sora to use. Yet he 'remembers' his old clothes when he uses it. (I like remembers, because Memory seems important) No secondary keyblade has been used for the unlocking/locking purpose and so it seems clear that although there are keyblades - there are only a few very powerful ones that can lock/unlock. These seem to be linked to a fixed alignment (Light, Dark, etc) instead of a persons heart - which often develops and changes (Sora and his anti-form, Riku moving from light to dark to nearer light again)

    There's a lot more I could add on keyblades and the versions used but I'd like to use the space to quickly field a few observations/thoughts.

    When Aqua protects Ven using a shield, its reminiscent of Riku/Sora's drive ability. The running theory is that such powers are not keyblade based. They come from the heart and work best with its friends.

    There is a flash that mentions 'Xehanort's memory' in the original video of the crossroads. Its taken its talking about his missing memory but in light of the 'trinity' theory, that the Nobody and Heartless symbols are featured with another, could it refer to this new foe? Memories make the soul and its possible the third race are made of memories. If someone loses those memories (Xehanort, Roxas, Namine) they form some Amnesia-based enemy? That's a bit far out, but its an idea.

    Many including myself have said the one who removes his helmet and who's eyes go dark is the original Xehanort - in body at least.

    Is he no the same one you fight in KH2:FM+? Assuming he and the one you fight are both the one in the video, doesn't that make them both versions of Xehanort?

    This is where the Xehanort's memory comes in. What if his lost memory, formed a strange sort of lost-man? Is there a connection to the ones people call Chasers? Did Xemnas (a nobody being soul+body) have the memory of his past that Xehanort lacked?

    Many people quote that 'the characters in the video are entirely new characters'. Which one? We've established both special endings are with different characters because the keyblades change and the armor is slightly different. So could the original one have people like Riku, Kairi and Sora behind the masks?

    And the most important question: Is even Nomura, admiting he could make mistakes in all this mess, going to be able to explain it himself in the next game :D

    I hope so.

    Yhorian
     
  2. O R A N G E C is the heavenly option

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    That video was helpful. However, the Frozen knight is not dead. Look at his eyes. They move. That is definatly SE trying to tell us something. Actually, morel like screaming "THIS CHARACTER IS NOT DEAD"


    You should probably read up before you post. It makes a lot of sense when you browse around a little and look at other theories before posting your own. I'm not saying it is a bad theory; just make sure you check your facts.
     
  3. Roxas OG

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    Also, the Keychain on baldy's KeyBlade is from Kingdom Key.