Anime... what is so great about it

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  1. water mage Kingdom Keeper

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    It's a different form of animation that has vivid detail and in depth character's analysis. Depending on the series it can range from gore to fluff. It's won a general audience over and that is why there are anime conventions held all over the world especially in the US.
     
  2. kaseykockroach Hollow Bastion Committee

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    I don't like anime because, well... I like to be, you know... Entertained.
     
  3. Johnny Stooge Traverse Town Homebody

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    anime is for ******s.

    you're all ******s.
     
  4. Rawr King's Apprentice

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    I disagree, its a opinion, no one told you had to like anime.
     
  5. Johnny Stooge Traverse Town Homebody

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    so it's my opinion that you're a ******.
     
  6. kaseykockroach Hollow Bastion Committee

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    Dude, I hate anime with a passion and I still was offended by your post. Is ****** really neccesary? C'mon, there are homosexual members here, y'know. To them, that's the equivalent of the "N-word".
     
  7. Catch the Rain As the world falls down ♥

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    Well, I actually don't understand why the word ****** is so offensive, I mean, I don't get offended when someone calls me straight you know? Maybe I am missing the point. I just don't get how it can be offensive to gay people when you know, it is just a term for gay people. Also, I don't actually know that many black people who are offended by the term ******.


    edit: well holy **** I never knew that word was censored.
     
  8. Magick ~Meaner then my demons~

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    Took the words right out of my mouth. I think its offensive to people who hear someone being called that, but to someone who the meaning of the word actually applies, its not all that bad. That's just my experience.
     
  9. kaseykockroach Hollow Bastion Committee

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    Maybe just the idea that, if you like anime, you're homosexual. I'm tired of the word "gay" being used for a general insult (oh, that's so gay, etc).
    But this thread isn't about gay folks. I'd rather not be the cause for it being closed due to some arguement about gays, as I myself enjoy reading other anime-haters. xD
     
  10. Catch the Rain As the world falls down ♥

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    Well personally I think that the word gay has lost it's meaning of being homosexual anyways, it has two meanings now or at least that is how I think of it. On the one side you have the actual gay, as in homosexual, and then you have the generic use of it as a insult and the implication of stupidity.

    Anyways, you're right, back on topic we go.
     
  11. John Clay Rice Hollow Bastion Committee

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    I like some anime. Not all, just some. If I had to choose between anime and this generation of cartoons(Fosters Chowder and crap) I would choose anime. But I would choose the classic cartoons (Ren and Stimpy, Rocko) over both of them.
     
  12. kaseykockroach Hollow Bastion Committee

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    One of the main reasons I don't like anime is because there's so little variety in it. Sure, the style looks nice, but its ALWAYS the SAME EXACT style, with very little variation. No matter what Japanese studio it comes from, it always looks something like this.
    http://www.fandm.edu/Images/anime.jpg
    If you were to tell me that these are all from completely different shows, I'd ask you to pass the joint over this way.
    Story-wise, it's also always the same. Yes, there's some anime that actually tries to be remotely funny, but the rest is always dark, brooding, emo, action-y in some way, with those babes in skimpy outfits wielding machine guns (that's NOT a bad thing, I just want more variety XD).
     
  13. childofturin Why?

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    I know I've already replied here, but really, I choose a good book over just about any other media, and good movies over television shows, and then live action over any type of animated stuff. Other than that, cartoons/anime in general really don't have the capacity to hold my interest anymore, aside from a VERY few shows (namely Avatar and (I just got into it) DBZ).
     
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    wanna see why anime is so cool? WATCH TSUBASA.
     
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    I enjoy anime, and YAY popeye lol I am not a fan of much American animation...
     
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    1. Online, so I choose when I watch it. If I want to blow my bandwidth for the month in one night on all of Code Geass, then I can. If I tried watching a cartoon on tv, I would get an episode, two if I'm lucky per night. Not to mention how the broadcast order is screwed up. We get it in seasons, with the entire series restarting as soon as we reach the end of the alotted amount of episodes. Online, I choose.

    2. Filler and length. Cartoons rarely have anything BUT filler. Their entire premise is filler crap so the companies can broadcast it out of order. All of the cartoon is literally filler, and it goes on for ever. I can get an anime 13-26 episodes long, and almost every episode will be quality, story enhancing/advancing stuff.

    3. Plot. Hate to break it to you, but the Japanese can do a decent plot. The only things on TV are sitcoms. Now if canned laughter and bland acting does it fo you, go right ahead. The closest thing I've seen that has a plot is "Heroes" or "Lost". Remember though, they're still cash cows and will go on until they die. There will be no satisfactory end like many anime can give. (Yeah, some anime go on forever too...) But seriously, there is so much imagination in anime. Cartoons have imagination, but not as a serious plot point. a sponge living at the bottom of the sea is wacky, not an actual plot. A notebook of death causing a battle of wits is a plot. A quest to pierce the heavens is a plot. A woman who kills people with invisible arms is a plot. Yet another post-9/11 movie is a plot, but a dull one that gets old.

    4. Art style! Chibi! Serious! Well proportioned, massive heads, wacky hair! The art style varies so much. My preference is the realistic look. Cartoons in general are not realistic. Power puff girls. No fingers. Anything with animals has ugly beasts bar disney, and those days are long gone. Johnny Bravo has exaggerated limb movements. I can get an anime that looks realistic without having actors. This means that a serious supernatural plot can be held together without CGI of varying quality.

    5. Animation that has blood. The first time I saw an episode of Naruto where blood was actually spilt, I was ecstatic. Finally! I didn't care that the massive shruiken in the guy's back should be causing far more damage. The fact that blood was shown was a massive bonus. Since then I've even been impressed with Haruhi. If a person got a giant rod shoved through them, it would bleed, even if said person pulled it out a few seconds later.

    6. Rule of Cool. Fantastic fight scenes are always absent from cartoons and are almost always ruined by bad effects if done with actors. Even when it does work out it can't have nearly as many cool effects as anime can. Oh forget it. I'll get this point on videos alone.
    This show runs on awesome.
    This one runs on angst, robots and Gainax.
    This one runs on pretty much every genre you can think of, the current one being action.


    Point made on awesome?

    Another thing is that anime doesn't treat its viewers like morons and it makes them think a bit, just like a good book. For example, Neon Genesis Evangelion or Serial Experiments Lain for good ol' mind screwiness, or Code Geass/Death Note for an anime with two sides in a battle of wits.

    Coming back to the thought area, a cartoon can't make you upset over a character's death. After all, status quo is to be maintained and no one dies permanently, right? No so in anime. A perfect example of a death scene is from Code Geass. And this is an awesome scene too. *Spoilers for Code Geass R2*

    Also explaining the subtitles. It just sounds better to some people in Japanese. We still understand it due to subtitles. Plus, English voice actors can get really bad. And finally, when dubbed, the dubbing companies have a tendancy to... Adjust the show.

    In short: Cartoons with better animation, better plot, better art, better special effects, better music, better character development, better time management, more thinking about it, the ability to extract an emotional reaction, better voices and better (LESS!) censorship.

    Oh, and none of the videos here are from Naruto, Bleach or One Piece, simply because they have strung out too long and I was making a point of showing anime that meet all my criteria. There are awesome fights in those too.

    I believe my point is made.
     
  17. Bareri-San 私はポテトだ。

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    Pika, will you marry me? xD
    I seriously agreed with every single point you have made here.

    Of course there are people who are going to hate anime no matter how much anime fanatics try to convince them how bountiful this genre can be. Some people might think that there isn't much variety in anime but that is probably because they haven't looked underneath the surface of the countless popular shows that are aired, IMO if you do that you are bound to find a show that you will love.
     
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    Good point. Dragon Ball, Naruto, Bleach, One Piece, even pokemon all were/are popular in the anime world, but they become the stereotype for others and when the fad of the particular anime fades from the general public, they become viewed as lame. As they are the stereotype for anime, anime then becomes lame. Also, 4kids really don't help.

    The problem is that for the general public, cartoons are slapstick comedy, thus childish, thus cartoons are childish, thus animation is childish. So when something like Elfen Lied comes along, It's dismissed as childish. Same theory as above really. guilt by association. People forget that cartoons is a sub-catagory of animation and not vice versa.

    The west is stuck in the stereotype of animation=children. Japanese has no such concept, expanding a genre we have limited ourselves with.
     
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    If you were my child, I would take you out into the back paddock and shoot you.
    Or at least beat the **** out of you with the gun.
     
  20. Bareri-San 私はポテトだ。

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    The only cartoons I will consider watching (if there's nothing else on TV) is Family Guy or The Simpsons but even those shows have gone rather boring lately.

    I think Naruto would of been a fairly decent anime in if they didn't put all of those bloody fillers into it.

    But yes, the west has always assumed that cartoons meant it was for children, which in fact it is not for children all the time. If the anime has blood and violence in it (like naruto, one piece and DBZ) then don't try and make it a kids cartoon, that's what I think.

    Oh yeah, Code Geass R2 ending was epic.
     
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