Anders Behring Breivik faces up to 21 years in jail for Norway massacre

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  1. The Fuk? Dead

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    And you thought America's legal system was flawed?

    Here's the story:

    Is eligible for "weekend parole" in 7 years. Just recently, in Norway, a bear attacked a family on a vacation in the woods because she wanted to protect her cubs who were half a mile away, so they shot the bear, for just being a fucking bear. This guy kills over ninety people, sets off a bomb and can be out of prison walls in 7 years. Great job, guys.
     
  2. Namin3 Destiny Islands Resident

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    Wow, thats sad. They should've shot him to then! I would've.
     
  3. Limex Destiny Islands Resident

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    thats Scanedinavia for ya.
     
  4. Amaury Chaser

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    Now, now, even killers don't deserve to be killed.

    Anyway, I agree that he should be in prison for his crimes. I'm not sure of his reasons, but murder kind of follows the same concept of suicide, except it's not just one person. In other words, don't commit suicide or murder.
     
  5. Technic☆Kitty Hmm

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    In Prison! More like locked behind several steel walls in a padded cell. This guy has made up some kind of fantasy conspiracy and has systematically gone through every step of his plan, you honestly think he didn't have a plan for this? Also . . . if it was over here in the USA he would have got maybe five years, its in Scandinavia they should shoot his A** where he stands. But anyhow to summarize, he is a nut job, highly dangerous and capable of thinking things through.
     
  6. C This silence is mine

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    Well to be fair, it's a bit harder to controll a polar bear than a human.

    Also, he'll most likely stay in prison for the rest of his life. If the government don't see a person fit to release then they can keep them in jail for another five years after their time is done, I do believe you call it "Involuntary commitment" over thar. But yeah, they can just keep adding five more years after those five years are over and continue like that. He will most likely get essentially a life sentence with Mr. The Pocket Man. If being in jail here really is jail is another case though.
     
  7. Plums Wakanda Forever

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    This.

    I mean, I doubt they would actually let him walk scott-free with only like a decade plus of probation. This guy had killed over ninety innocent people, so I would think they would be a bit hesitant in releasing him back into the world anytime soon. Anyway, my condolences to the families of the victims, and hopefully justice will be served as much as it can.
     
  8. daxma Hei Long: Unrivalled under the Heavens

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    What you people fail to understand is condemning a man of this caliber to prison for one year is enough, and do you understand why? Because he will be murdered within months of being in prison. for one thing, the prisoners will rip him apart, and secondly the guards will watch in malice. He will die the way a perverse person like himself deserves. I'm a reserved person and it doesn't disturb me unduly to put a bullet in his leg and watch him scream. He perverted innocent beliefs in order justify political motives. What a fool.
     
  9. Amaury Chaser

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    I also agree that one year is enough.

    However, if other people in prison attempt to murder him, aren't the guards required to take action?
     
  10. daxma Hei Long: Unrivalled under the Heavens

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    Of course they are required to act but what are the chances the guards will take action. People are too self-righteous to help a man like that and i don't blame them. The is a guy who killed and maimed people in perverse ways. People were screaming and writhing in pain asking to be putting out of there misery and he walked along the beach as if nothing was going on. Prisons are SUPPOSED to rehabilitate prisoners, and for the most part that's non-existent but with a person like this, its just ludicrous. His death, his slow death is something that would heal people.
     
  11. Doc Destiny Islands Resident

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    I read the article and can't help but think this isn't fair or just. It's always horrible when a killer doesn't get a life sentence or death himself. I don't like to feel sorry for a killer and most of the time I look at the a family who has to deal with the loss of a child or other family member. To think that a killer can go home and live life like he didn't kill anyone is just strange and weird. The only reason I would feel sympathetic with someone who takes another life is if they are mentally unstable and can't control themselves. That's my opinion anyway.
     
  12. Amaury Chaser

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    I know what he did was inexcusable. However, even murderers shouldn't be killed, which is why I disagree with the whole death sentence punishment.

    Not as severe, of course, but it's like kids who fight in school or whatever. Just because a kid hits a kid doesn't mean it's right for that kid to hit the kid back.
     
  13. C This silence is mine

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    You do realise that this is in Norway and not America, right? The guards will take care of him as they should, he shouldn't die instantly then he won't even have any time to "think about what he did". There's no way he's going to be killed in an Norwegian prison, he will live happily in there safe and sound.
     
  14. daxma Hei Long: Unrivalled under the Heavens

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    What your singularly believe is right is inconsequential, what is right is the "collective good" or justice as it is called. I believe that everyone can be swayed into believing anything you want them to, all you need to do is make them understand and to relate to it. In an idealistic world that is how criminals would be dealt with but its not an ideal world, its cruel and unforgiving and for that this man will have to pay the price not only for his crimes but for putting his own family and friends lives at risk.
     
  15. Llave Superless Moderator

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    so killing a whole island of people at camp and setting a bomb in Norway that is now considered the 9/11 of Europe will only get you 21 years in prison? As if! that's just screwed up... at least a life sentence, maybe 2 life sentences if you're feeling lucky..
     
  16. Peace and War Bianca, you minx!

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    Prison is supposed to be about rehabilitating criminals to become productive citizens of society. Punishment is the secondary objective of a prison system. At least that's the way it's suppose to be, most ofthe time the public see it as merely a way to get revenge on those who have wronged them. Emotional.

    I have to admit in this case I feel a lot of anger towards Anders. But in the end I know that his irrational beliefs and zealous commit likely mean he suffers from a mental illness of some sorts. But then on the otherhand, I'm kinda conflicted about this idea at the same time since it was a highly organised plan and execution. But then on the other otherhand, a great deal of serial killers have been organised to the point of perfection.

    The whole situation, and many others involving mass murder in many different countries, could've been avoided if the mental health awareness was better. The amount of cases I've seen of peoples lives ruined by ineffecient psychological diagnosis and treatment, people locked away who don't need to be or drugged up to the point of incoherence and numbness.

    Maybe if Anders is medically treated properly he could be normal in a word. But I doubt that. Prisons aren't as successful as they could be, if only the proper program was put in place.
     
  17. Boy Wonder Dark Phoenix in Training

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    If I remember correctly, they said that he failed to get an insanity plea. I don't know if that's because he was analyzed as not mentally ill or what, but yeah, just throwing that out there.
    But I agree, rehabilitation, no matter how often it fails, is the primary purpose of prison. Prison has (I think) 4 purposes, though I can't remember them all. But rehabilitation is number one.
    Also, I doubt he'll get killed in prison. Prisoners do kill each other, true, but it's not a guaranteed thing that one specific prisoner will get killed, especially within a certain amount of time. I mean, hell, he'll probably be in there with other people like him.

    In the end, I hope his sentence gets extended (the whole five years on top of another five years sounds like something that's also not guaranteed) and that he isn't killed. A guy like that doesn't deserve the easy way out.
     
  18. Peace and War Bianca, you minx!

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    Just because he didn't get the insanity plea doesn't mean he doesn't suffer from a mental prolem. It could be that the court felt a personal obligation to make him stand accountable for all of his actions whether or not he has a mental illness. I can't blame them, but it's difficult to tell whether he is mentally ill or not from what has been released to the public.

    Not sure aobut the likelihood of him being kiled in prison. If people know you're a mass murderer they may not want to mess with you, but if someone close to them may have died or been injured because of his actions that could go out the window and they'd hunt him down. I doubt with the amount of people he's killed that he'll be allowed to interact with many other prisoners, anyway.

    See the thing is I don't think he will feel pain from a long prison sentence. In his irrational thought process he sees what he did as a duty or mission, one that he accomplished. He might feel proud of it and not feel guilt. He may feel nothing for the people he has killed, and a prison sentence may do nothing to him. He may not feel punished.