Birth by Sleep An assortment of theories

Discussion in 'Kingdom Hearts HD II.5 ReMIX' started by skyone6, Jun 11, 2008.

  1. skyone6 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    First off I wanna thank Zeftnon for posting the leaked trailer!!!

    Ven

    One of the biggest things that people are wondering about. At first I thought that he could be Sora's brother, but Nomura said he has no blood connection to him. He also said that you will figure him out once you realize the connection between Sora and Roxas. Well the connections between them are:
    1. Is that Roxas is Sora's nobody
    2. That one has a heart and the other doesn't
    3. There are three types of enemies and Sora has only filled up two of them

    One connection that I've noticed that people over look is what Diz said to Roxas. He told Roxas that he was of the darkness and that he needed someone to be able to travel through the light and that's why he needed Sora. Now what is between light and darkness...twilight which can go either way. In the trailer MX states that one in the darkness is not qualified for the keyblade. That's when it hit me, when he was talking with Ven in the trailer and he said your losing it, but not permanently and has that ball of darkness... I think he actually means that his heart is turning towards the darkness and he has lost his light.

    Ven and Terra

    Well we already know that they are friends and that when they are on Destiny Island says that Terra should erase him. Well at the beginning of the trailer Terra asks MX to answer him about what he did to Ven's heart. Now we could think some big extravagent reason, but maybe when MX is talking to Ven he tells him about losing his light and maybe some other things about hearts and darkness. He then could've sent Ven to find the the princesses for there pure hearts in order to obtain his light when he really needed them for Kingdom Hearts. Before Ven left he could've met up with Terra to tell him to forget about him due to him leaving for his mission. After leaving, Terra could've gone to MX to have him answer him and then either follow Ven or train under MX.

    The Riku like Soldier

    I believe that the soldier is actually Terra when he trained with MX and in a way united power with him (Which could explain the whole soldier coming out MX thing). I know some of you will say where is the evidence. Well people have noticed that Terra and Riku have a connection due to the meaning of there names. I'm pretty sure that the name's aren't the only connection that they have. Well if you notice both of them seem to use the word friend in odd ways such as using quotes. Anyways back when they said Ven knocked off the soldier's mask and they didn't show his face. MX could've had a hold on Terra which broke when the helmet came off and he saw Ven which brought back his deep locked up memories (their could have been a large amount of time since they saw each other. Also when Mickey interferes the fight between Ven and the soldier in order to help the soldier remember, spare Ven's life, or explains MX true plan.
    (Memories have been a pretty important thing)

    Who is Aqua

    Well Aqua and Kairi have a connection right and what is Kairi...a princess. Like I stated before about Ven going on a mission to retrieve the princesses (There are scans of him with them) and Aqua could be the last one to find. Ven with/without Terra could've met her and she could've saved him during a "boss battle" using her keyblade. From the secret endings it seems that Aqua is stronger than Ven. From the scans it also seems that Ven has a personality similar to Sora's and could've formed a friendship or more with her (which is shown in the ending when Ven runs over to Aqua when she is injured, how they look at each other and she gasp right before he is frozen and when she catches his frozen body and has a sadden look on her face).

    A little more evidence

    Well this section just states somethings I noticed from the screenshots and the secret ending. Well I think that the princesses were used in the first game because of what I explained. The only thing is how could the process be repeated after the fight, well remember how Terra is talking to Maleficient and he has a grin on his face. That could be a moment when he tells her about MX plan about Kingdom Hearts, but not everything so you know leave Terra in the dark. Maleficient probably knew the whole plan while Terra could've thought it could help his "friend" or something (If so it takes place before the soldier takes its role).

    The other thing I notice is that when Aqua, Ven, and Terra see MX and the soldier that came from his body;Ven quickly jumps forward as if angry about something and then is held back by Terra. Then Terra seems to be pass by the soldier and takes on MX which looks like the student takes on the master sort of thing.

    PLEASE POST WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THE THEORIES
     
  2. Soraroxmysox!454 Destiny Islands Resident

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    Could be it but we cant be sure untill the game comes out. I dont know how you people come up with these theories!
     
  3. Arch Mana Knight

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    Good theories...one problem. Even though it would be cool for Terra to be MX's apprentice...how can he be the soldier guy if they both appear at the same time in the same cutscene? Plus, isn't Terra a little more...well...bigger?
     
  4. skyone6 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Well I think that the soldier in the ending is the dark half and or replica of darkness. i mean anything is possible because remember Riku made Anti Sora out of nowhere right in front of Sora. Anyways I also think it goes along the lines that through the apprentice and Master thing, they some how unite in a way, such as MX summoning is apprentice's dark soul and Terra obtaining MX yellow eyes.

    I personally thought that the theories had alot of loose ends.
     
  5. 00Roxas00 剛情のロクサス

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    Really nice, you really put some thought into that, as much as i like to guess whats going to happen i decided that i should wait until the game arrives
     
  6. daxma Hei Long: Unrivalled under the Heavens

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    *Bows* i have to admit you can see the minut details like myself but at the same time
    you would need Quotes and pic's and videos to back up your theories but you will go far
    in this forum.
     
  7. skyone6 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Yeah I know, I was going to use a scan that maybe on the forum, but the picture didn't come up. I just wish they would release more information like about Ven and I'm curious about the battlefield in the ending (sort of coming up with a new theory).
     
  8. skyone6 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Exactly, we just come up with them when playing or watching the game.
     
  9. Arch Mana Knight

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    Now that I think about it...it is possible for Terra to be MX's apprentice but most likely not the dark suit guy. I think that's the Xehanort we know now. My theory...well...I'll make it short. Something bad happens when MX summons Kingdom Hearts. "Xehanort" wakes up only remembering his master's name Xehanort and takes that name using it as his own. He goes to Radiant Garden and we all know what happens from there. It also goes with the fact that his heartless also stole someone's name. Ansem. Makes sense to me but...we can't know for sure.