Kingdom Hearts II All of the game's attacks - Another overstudy

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  1. StarSeeker99 Gummi Ship Junkie

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    The countless, countless labs I've had to do this last session obviously corrupted my mind.
    I felt like measuring the strength of all the attacks in the game. It's not yet complete, only did Normal Sora and Limit Sora, and I won't finish this task unless enough people get interested...


    So, I basically used a flexible ruler to measure the damage dealt, directly on my TV screen. Because of this rather unprofessional method, I made sure to be as precise as possible. But for some reason, the results were often very round.

    The numbers are all centimeters on my TV screen. Not an official unit, but you can only use those tables for comparative purposes.

    Btw, I hate when the computer compresses images for no reason. It looks blurry.


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    Attacks written in italic are nameless attacks, that Sora uses for lack of a better equipped ability.

    These measures were made in the Saix Data Fight, level 99, Kingdom Key, all stats over 80, with no Support Abilities except Scan, Aerial Recovery, Leaf Bracer, Second Chance and Once More, and with Party Members stripped of all Abilities.

    Saix Data has 3400 HP, distributed among 17 HP bars. So each full HP bar = 200 HP.
    On my TV, a full HP bar is 21.5 centimeters long.

    Therefore, 1 cm = 9.3 HP.


    Keep in mind that some enemies have more Defense than others. 15 HP worth of damage might jump to 20 if you hit something else.




    Interesting observations

    - Almost all attacks were mysteriously well-rounded. They nearly all fall exactly on a centimeter, half or a quarter of centimeter. I guess I got lucky with my TV's screen size.

    - Without any Combo Boosts, Finishers aren't that strong, compared to the other hits. But Combo Boost makes a huge difference, which I'm yet to measure.

    - Guard Break and Finishing Leap are equal in power.

    - Most attacks hit more often that you might think. Aerial Finish, for example, clearly shows four hits, visually and through sound, but it actually hits five times.

    - I'm not sure how Reflega works. I've tested it against Saix's non-berserk slash, and his slide dash move, and got the same results.

    - Sometimes, enemies don't flinch, but aren't invincible, and still take damage. When that happens, they still receive 100% of the damage.

    - Zantetsuken can be made at the end of a combo in Limit Form, or directly after Guarding in Limit Form. Both have the same strength, unless you equip Combo Boosts.

    - Firaga seems to be unpredictable. The last hit often misses.

    - Blizzaga and Thundaga are equally as powerful.

    - Slide Dash acts differently from Normal Sora to Limit Sora. Whether this is a strange thing, or I have miscalculated something, I do not know.

    - The numbers given for Limit Form's Limits assume that you complete the attack fully.
    As for Ragnarok, after the initial combo, you have 4 Reaction Commands :
    "Impact" (shoots 10 homing lasers), "Mega Impact (I don't know how many it shoots...), "Giga Impact" (shoots 25 lasers), and then "Impact" again.

    Keep in mind that some lasers can miss. Especially if you're near a wall.


    - The single, stand-alone, most powerful attack in the game, is Zantetsuken. However, all of Limit's Form Limits overpower it, at the cost of MP.

    - Aerial Dive is stronger than Aerial Sweep. If you equip it and unequip Aerial Sweep, it will replace it 95% of the time. Therefore, never equip Aerial Sweep, as you'll waste 2 AP.

    - Horizontal Slash is insane :shocked:!!! It's stronger than Guard Break and Finishing Leap! Berserk Charge + Horizontal Slash = :guns3:

    - In RE:COM, Ars Arcanum was said to hit 13 times. I measured only 12 hits in KH2FM.




    If you have anything to say, correct, add, etc., feel free.

    And let's try to stick on the topic, and not on why I started this Thread. I should've never mentionned that.
     
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    i did find some things that help me
     
  3. Asterisk NO WONT LET YOU

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    Luna, don't be a ******.At least his posts have a purpose unlike the one you just made..

    While I admit I didn't read all of it, I gotta admit that was some impressive work StarSeeker!
     
  4. StarSeeker99 Gummi Ship Junkie

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    Thanks, but he isn't being a ******... did you see the last sentence of my first post?

    Maybe I should've removed that, lol.

    In that case, it wasn't wasted.
     
  5. Tikem Gummi Ship Junkie

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    Your overstudies are really helpful. What form are you trying next?
     
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    Damn dude, where was that thread hiding from me? xD
    I'm sure it'll come in handy sometime, good job.
     
  7. StarSeeker99 Gummi Ship Junkie

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    Not sure. First I want to see if there are a few people interested.

    Especially since the other Forms aren't used much. Maybe I'll do Final Form, and only a few attacks of the others.

    Oh, and some "extra" things, such as the longest possible aerial combo, with Air Combo Boost, and Horizontal Slashes. Just to see how powerful it is.

    And thanks for enjoying it!
     
  8. StarSeeker99 Gummi Ship Junkie

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    I used a flexible and transparent ruler on my TV. Yeah, pretty primitive, but it got the job done.
    I checked the HP bar, so the damage shown is actually the length I measured.

    As for the inches, it would be the exact same thing, only multiplied by 2.5.
    All ratios would be the same.
     
  9. Tikem Gummi Ship Junkie

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    So, if you were to count Saïx's defence and Sora's strenght, you could pretty much make calculations to how much each attack does damage to each enemy. Does Ultimania list the DEF values to each enemy?
     
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    I tried finding the attack values themselves, by Googling keywords, but didn't find anything. Tried Ultimania, and some other Thai website... All I found was the HP of all enemies.
    If the attack powers are there, I couldn't find them :(


    I DO know, however :

    Saix Data has 3400 HP, distributed among 17 HP bars. So each full HP bar = 200 HP.
    On my TV, a full HP bar is 21.5 centimeters long.

    Therefore, 1 cm = 9.3 HP.


    Anyone knows how Strength and Defense actually work?
     
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