Ah, those lovely gas prices.

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  1. Roxas is Hot I'd lick his Sea Salt stick anytime. ♥

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    Everyone knows that gas prices are rising through the roofs at a ridiculous pace. Most places have over 4 freakin' bucks a gallon and it's starting to create holes in people's wallets.


    What do you people think about it? I'm pretty sure what the main answer will be. *rolls eyes* What do you think the gov'ments should do about it?
     
  2. Haseo Knight of Light

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    Stop using gas and start using some other fuel... like water!
     
  3. Roxas is Hot I'd lick his Sea Salt stick anytime. ♥

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    What an intelligent answer....anyone else?
     
  4. Sanya Orussia’s 586th Fighter Regiment

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    Gas actually went down here in the last few weeks by 50 cents (Michigan)... thank God that hurricane didn't do any damage. As for alternative fuels... use natural gas instead of petroleum oil? Save 30% at the pump? Yes or no?
     
  5. sinister King's Apprentice

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    well....fuel price is cheaper in america than in sweden at least....
     
  6. Princess Luna Supreme Co-Ruler of Equestria

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    Hey~ it won't take long for gas to be $5 a gallon in LA. 8D Oh goody! I mean, I am so freaking loaded with money, that thanks to the awesome gas prices, I cannot even go watch a freaking movie. xO Seriously... this is ridiculous! I do agree with the natural gas, but it won't take us for too long. However, next to that, I vote more hybrids and smart cars. *shrugs* Can't really do anything about it if the world is running low on oil, and the prices are soaring.
     
  7. Patsy Stone Мать Россия

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    Lol you lot obviously haven't heard of the petrol prices in the UK. £1.20 a litre and shows no sign of stopping. That is roughly $2.40~, but only for a litre (dang it, use litres you philistines >_> ;D). But yeah, it's disgraceful. I can remember when it was under £1.

    Here we've had lorries protesting against it by blocking roads in and out of major cities such as Cardiff and London. On top of this the government wants to raise fuel duty (yeah, ours is massively taxed [roughly 70p out of every £1 goes straight to the taxman]) and road tax on the most polluting cars.

    It's a rough time for commuters everywhere and all of it caused by the price of oil (which certainly isn't helped by the bloody speculators *shoots all of them* =_=). Bio-fuels suck as well, they are destroying food supplies and cause more damage to the enviroment than good =/
     
  8. Sanya Orussia’s 586th Fighter Regiment

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    Sucks for UK and their heavy taxation?

    Lol but yeah, I can see where you are coming from... we shouldn't really complain of the gas prices here in the U.S. as compared to Europe. Michigan just sucks in general because we are the Automotive capital of the world (GM, Ford, Chrysler) and our economy basically revolves around that. Knowing that much, you can guess what kind of economic state we are in...

    Bio-fuels are just an excuse to make environmentalists shut up about pollution, but they aren't really a good solution. They have Ethanol here now (or E85) but there's only one problem... 95% of the cars we drive can't run on Ethanol. -_-'
     
  9. Peace and War Bianca, you minx!

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    Here's a solution people should think about. Ban the use of motorised vehicles.
    Stupid on so many, many levels? Sure.
    Will it solve the problem we keep asking year in and out? Yes.
    If anyone else can fiind a solid solution apart form that one I will probably back it up.
    Only 1.20?
    Damn!
    It's £1.45 near where I live.
    One of the many reasons I don't want my own car.
     
  10. Crumpet In your shadow, I can shine!

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    4 bucks woah - damn that's high

    i sense that people will only be buying cars for show in the future and many people will be walking everywhere ~ which is not good considering i live about a 15 min drive from both work and school

    they should find alternative fuels
     
  11. JorrellVsRoxas Traverse Town Homebody

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    ehm. im no global warming tard, but if we used private transportation less and public more, the gas price will go down, and green house gasses will umm idk... we will lesson the ...eh well you det the picture..
     
  12. Repliku Chaser

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    People need vehicles to get around. A lot of us drive 20 to 40 mins to work and/or school commutes. I have to drive to two jobs to pay for life, go to college etc. I need to move around and having a vehicle is mandatory to well, doing what is expected of me.

    We can't afford to just take vehicles from people. Some people's lives who aren't demanding and can get jobs nearby where a metro or a bike would work, sure, that's great for them. It doesn't happen for all of us though and going to the store to shop every day or every other day would also be a big problem for many people who don't have time with their high demanding lives.

    So the only solution I see is that vehicles need to become more fuel economic. Either with using bio-fuels, hybrids, electric, water...whatever, but the vehicles also have to stop being crap. If engineers had some time ago been working on this stuff, by now we'd have new vehicles that could compare with the old in terms of power and reliability. We didn't. If oil corps wouldn't have bought out, as well as car manufactures, patents to creations people have had on redesigned vehicles etc, we wouldn't be here either. The governments we are under have -all- wanted us to be dependent on oil because they are mostly connected to the oil companies and well, it's made for some interesting bed fellow situations. The oil companies are rotten and have caused so much trouble in some countries and act like they are their own nations. We've all been screwed by them and if people want a way out, it is clear the way out is to force these car companies etc to start making better products that do not have to use petrol, and/or force the governments to do alternate power methods.

    I can't see another solution than to get us off the backs of having to be slaves to oil. The situation with oil in the first place is everyone -knows- it is not a permanent resource any way. So whether you believe in the global warming issue or not, the deal comes down to oil just won't be here as a resource and the oil companies are trying to milk it for all it's worth.
     
  13. Inasuma "pumpkin"

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    Easy way out to avoid gas prices: buy a converter of some type. It's costly, but beneficial.

    You can both avoid he government and keep money in your wallet in the long run. :3

    And actually, maybe if you really want to get involved and not let the government do all the work, you could figure out another loop hole to run your vehicle.
     
  14. ♥AL90♥ Hollow Bastion Committee

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    We already have an alternative fuel. Honda is making a hydrogen powered car. They're releasing it to California first.

    The hydrogen powered car will actually save us from global warming and repair the hole in the ozone layer. How? Well it's simple. If the hydrogen creates ozone and if it floats high enough then it can reach the ozone layer and fill in those holes.

    I hope that we can all convert over though. I imagine that their going to have a deal where if you trade in your car you will get the hydrogen powered one for half price.

    The left over oil will probably be used for oiling the car. And we don't have to rely on foreign oil from countries that are holding out on us.

    And it will help the economy to because then people don't have to spend that much money on gas and they can use it to buy other things that will stimulate the economy. Because hydrogen can come out of the sky as rain aka water and water is known as H2O or 2 Hydrogen molecules and 1 Oxygen molecule.

    So their is a solution and it's coming soon.
     
  15. Jiku Neon Kingdom Keeper

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    Are you aware that the process to produce hydrogen, electrolysis, consumes a lot of energy and produces pollution in itself?

    Also, your logic is skewed in saying that it'll repair the ozone layer. There is already a surplus of ground level Ozone the problem is this substance doesn't float high into the atmosphere as you say.

    The two kinds of oil you're talking about are different. Petroleum used for fuel and oil used for other purposes are not the same things.

    People would under your scenario have to buy the hydrogen and would thus have the same problem as with petroleum.

    The hydrogen fuel cell has been a long time coming but it's hardly the panacea you make it out to be.
     
  16. Atlas Gummi Ship Junkie

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    I feel bad for all you west-coast people. Like RvR said, gas dropped a lot where i live. (ohio) I think 2 weeks ago it was around four dollars, but yesterday i saw somewhere that had gas for 3.45. Dunno what that means for the rest of the country, but my family is enjoying it while we can.

    It's funny, though, cuz everyday my mom says "Woah that's low, i should stop and get gas before it goes back up again" but in 2 weeks of her saying that, it just drops a few cents every day.
     
  17. Inasuma "pumpkin"

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    I imagine the hydrogen powered cars actually running on HHO or HH (I can't remember what it is), which is a super compressed hydrogen molecule that can power 10x+ as long as oil.
     
  18. TheMuffinMan Banned

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    Watch "Who Killed The Electric Car?"

    The end.

    No one is legitimately working on a way to wane our vehicles off of oil, the solution was already found 10 years ago, and the car companies willingly destroyed their own developed products to not get them in the hands of people.
     
  19. JorrellVsRoxas Traverse Town Homebody

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    cant people just carpool and pitch in for gas?
     
  20. TheMuffinMan Banned

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    You can, if you're, you know, ******ed.
     
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