Africa - The dirty heart of homophobia

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Patsy Stone, May 19, 2010.

  1. Peace and War Bianca, you minx!

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    So by logical conclusion, hetroesexuals can't choose to be homosexual? Or claim to be bisexual?
    Do these studies claim for the other sexual preferences such as asexuals, polysexuals or pansexuals? What does their brain mass tell us about their sexual preference?
    How many times has this study been repeated, in what environment or cultural? What demographic were the participants, were they Black, White Asian? What was their social background?
    Their has been to little addressed for anyone to make a reliable conclusion, until more is done neither side can say it is a definite that either nature or nurture has caused homosexuality to occur.

    If I'm going from personal experience, the last 6 years I've begun to feel attracted to certain groups. At first I was hetroesexual, I presume, for many years until I started to agree with a minority gay group at my school, I believes then that I was gay by extension and became aware of guys sexually, then a little bit older I realised my greater attraction to women, leading me to become bisexual. Over the next year I became very bored of both genders and concluded I was asexual, whilst in the last year my horizon for sexuality has increased. It may be that my mind is trying to find a comfortable sexual preferrence, but this is my main reason for agreeing with sexual orientation being a choice, since in my experience it can change all so suddenly.
    Another reason homosexuality has become more prevalent in recent decades I proposed by Bushman and Stack, who talked about 'The Forbidden fruit' theory, whereby when we are told something is unnatural or unobtainable we are more likely to try and achieve what we are told to avoid. The same applied to sexuality shows how it could be that being a minority view homosexuality preferrence is likely to occur.
    I don't truly know What causes it but from the small evidence I have so far, psychology has explained it in better terms so far.
     
  2. Patsy Stone Мать Россия

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    I just find everytime someone says it's a choice I remember all the times I was abused in school for being the way I was. I certianly did not choose to be bullied, the guy in the year above me didn't choose for his mother to reject him (he killed himself after that).

    The fact that there is even one person for whom it is not a choice contradicts the theory that it is a choice. Basic logic.
     
  3. Peace and War Bianca, you minx!

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    Those questions are all valid scientific questions to evaluate the effectiveness of an experiment. Unless the source is reliable the study, it's findings and conclusion are all subject to question. Don't dispute the facts I've been using if you believe in your own.

    So your personal experiences account for every gay man and woman in the world? It was your choice to reveal your sexual prefference. You weren't forced to tell them, but you did.
    And if we are going to count that guy in the year above you as evidence for gay being a biological occurence, it is true that he didn't choose his mother, but his voice was to take his own life. He had the choice to live on and look to the future, but he didn't. He wasn't born with, but his surrounding environment did it.

    But how do you know that someone has made a choice on their sexuality? So far the evidence you've presented shows a correlation between brain size and sexuality, but in evaluation we do not which one effected the outcome of the first.
    Your evidence is weak since technically it's it even here. It's one persons word against another. That's why this is a debate and not a factual post.

    I am open to the idea it is biological, but until then I am neutral to what truely is the cause.
     
  4. Patsy Stone Мать Россия

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    LOL You miss the point of my argument. I have learned through pure maths that any theory is disproved by a single piece of contradictory evidence. Your theory (lol piece of **** more like) that being gay is a choice is contradicted by the eividence of the guy in the year above me and by myself, and by my friend, and all of my exs, and all the other gays I know etc.

    You lose on so many levels =/ Why do you bother with this ****?
     
  5. Always Dance Chaser

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    Fail post is fail. Did you even read the post?
    Yeah, i doubt you read it. Also inb4 you claim to have been drunk when you made that post as if it fixes everything.
     
  6. Patsy Stone Мать Россия

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    I don't even remember going online last night. You may notice that I posted that at 3:20am?

    Well, I certainly didn't choose to be gay. I never wanted to be gay and there have been so many times when I wished that I was straight and that I found women attractive in that way. But I don't, and I don't have the "choice" to make that any different. I see sexual preference as set in stone as skin colour. Homophobia is really as bad as racism in that sense.
     
  7. Boy Wonder Dark Phoenix in Training

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    But this thread itself has people who have made a choice about homosexuality.
    By your logic, it can't be biological if there's one piece of evidence that says it's a choice.


    P.S. not everyone is in the same time zone.
     
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    As for this thing in Africa.. I watched a documentary today on Uganda that went more into detail. If this thing is accurate, it would appear that in March 2009, American Evangelicals went over and spoke in Uganda and helped really set this whole bill into creation and motion. A pastor in Uganda has taken things to higher levels and people all over there want this bill enacted that means such a threat to the homosexuals there and others who are not, but get accused of it.

    http://current.com/shows/vanguard/92438541_missionaries-of-hate-pt-1.htm This is pretty long but it does go into the scenario with Uganda much more deeply, for those who are interested and also shows what some countries are doing to try to head off this bill. The sad thing though is that even though the bill is 'postponed' due to pressures, the people of Uganda themselves are very intense due to all the firing up they've had and they may just take the law into their own hands then, and I doubt anyone will care to stop them.
     
  9. Sara Tea Drinker

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    Africa has many issues, and I agree this is one of the saddest thing I heard coming from Africa. It doesn't surprise me, no offense to anyone out there, that religion is involved. Yes, there's good religion, but from my own experience, Evangelical has caused more problems then solving them.

    Anyway, it is wrong to judge anyone for preference, except children, but that's another topic. Race, religion, culture, anything. It's sad when stuff like this happens.

    As a slightly off-topic mention. *bows an apology to Repli* There's also rapings going on in South Africa to little children because of the belief that raping a virgin will cure you of the AIDS virus.

    It's a sad world we live in, and it sadly won't change anytime soon.