358/2 Days About Roxas having a heart...

Discussion in 'Kingdom Hearts HD I.5 ReMIX' started by tacochickenwings, Dec 29, 2007.

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  1. key dragon One with the keyblade

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    Which could take a long time.
     
  2. tacochickenwings Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Another thing is, when Roxas came into being, he was completely without any memories. Therefore, it could be hard to fake emotions -- he would be lacking the memories to know or understand how, or what it was like. Though I'm not sure...we'll really just have to wait and see.
     
  3. qwdc Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Yeah, so maybe he could have one, though I'm mainly neutral on the matter.
     
  4. Terra26 Destiny Islands Resident

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    yes Roxas has a heart because in birth by sleep at some point Ven's heart is taken and put into Sora's heart and when Sora releases his heart when stabbing him self he also released Ven's as well and since Vens heart had no where to go it went to help form Roxas its why Roxas looks just like Ven and not like Sora
     
  5. key dragon One with the keyblade

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    Is there evidence to support this?
     
  6. Terra26 Destiny Islands Resident

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    yeah theres some we know that Sora can have more than just his heart inside of him also in one of the scans of BBS Terra yells at Master Xehanort what did you do to his heart and you can see Ven knocked out on the ground also they dont fully explain how Roxas came into being because Namine was created by using Sora's body and soul
     
  7. Paladin12345678 Twilight Town Denizen

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    Uhhhh, back on topic....

    I've always supported the "Roxas has a heart theory' by the most glaringly obvious reason.

    If he didn't have emotions, then why didn't he notice during his time in the digital Twilight Town? In fact, you can clearly see him angry, upset and sad during Twilight Town. He has a heart, only Nomura himself can deny it.
     
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    Ugh. DiZ and I have both explained.

    That was Sora's heart reacting to Roxas! a bit of Sora's heart bled across the link to Roxas. Thus Roxas got some form of emotions. Axel then felt the effects of Roxas, which were Sora all the time.

    I know, you like Roxas, because he is treated unfairly, and is Angry about it. Also he has cool clothes and is Sora's nobody. Spare a thought for Riku replica. He never sees outside castle oblivion!

    Yeah. Riku Replica. He may act like a prat to Sora, but play through as Riku. Then you will see that he has character too. Even watch the final Scene for Riku Replica on KH vids in Re:com. Sure I cannot understand it, but he is passionate about his heart, a great deal more than Roxas. Roxas is told he does not have one, but he feels emotion, so he does not believe it. Replica Riku does know he has a fake heart, and is forever trying to differ from Riku.
     
  9. key dragon One with the keyblade

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    Which made him "dying" a bit more sadder.
     
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    Who, Roxas or Replica?

    Roxas was cool, but we need to get over the "Omg, prejudice!11!!!" Stage with Roxas and realise that he was not a special nobody, but he had a Special Other.

    prove me wrong in Days, but ATM I think that Roxas is normal, but with a link to Sora's heart.
     
  11. key dragon One with the keyblade

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    That sorta makes him special.
     
  12. Princess Celestia Supreme Co-Ruler of Equestria

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    Roxas is special. He was created not when his other was consumed by darkness, but when his other Unlocked his Heart.

    Roxas does have a heart, its cannon. Axel, and Roxas both implied it. DiZ said it. Sora felt it.

    I dont think he has his own heart though. Namura said that BbS will reveale more about his heart.

    I believe that he is impling that his heart is connected to Ven.

    But even if it wasnt, Ven's heart, then its Sora, he has half of Sora's heart.
     
  13. tacochickenwings Merlin's Housekeeper

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    I have to disagree -- I really don't think you could call Roxas a normal nobody. I still think that what Axel said about him having a heart holds some sort of significance, otherwise, that scene wouldn't have been included in Final Mix. The fact that Sora is his other probably influences things a great deal, but I really think Roxas CAN feel independently, and may even have a heart of his own -- he lashed out at Riku when he implied otherwise by calling him Sora, and Roxas claimed to be his own person. Though he also responded as Sora would when Riku mocked him, and was surprised by his own response, so yeah, Sora is definitely a huge part within him, but I don't think he completely defines him.

    If Roxas were just an ordinary nobody, he wouldn't be getting his own game, and there definitely wouldn't be quite as much mystery surrounding him.
     
  14. black_oblivion56 Destiny Islands Resident

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    I believe hes had a heart since the start because you have to remember roxas is a special type of nobody so you should read the kh2 ansem reports to uderstand roxas and his being
     
  15. khmage1918 King's Apprentice

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    That is one of the most strait foward and true theories I have ever heard.
     
  16. Dredica SNES was the best.

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    Umm, I thought that nobodies didn't have hearts no matter what? I think Axel was just looking to find somebody to give him hope, that there's more to a nobody then just a body, and no heart, but yet, they have all sorts of feelings (lol, don't you remember?). Well, I think that's about it for me, NOT>

    I do not have any feelings towards nobodies, I HATE Roxas, he hurt Riku, therfore I hate him. They murder, and that's about all they really do. Nobodies have everything besides a heart, so they can't really have TRUE feelings, or maybe since Sora got his body back, there might be something differant there. A connection between a keyblade weilder and it's nobody. Hmm, Sora did come back, so then that could have triggered something, but I'm still going with the basics, stated by Nomura: Nobodies DO NOT HAVE HEARTS!!!
     
  17. Princess Celestia Supreme Co-Ruler of Equestria

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    Naruto0389, why are you hating on nobodies?

    Roxas is not a normal nobody. The reason normal nobodies dont have hearts, is that thier Others are heartless.

    If the theory about Ven is true, then Roxas does have a heart.

    If the theory is not true, Roxas still has a heart, because Roxas was special in that his Other still had a heart. Roxas and Sora are connected (they are two parts of the same person.) So therefore Roxas still has a heart.

    Also Roxas hurt Riku because Riku attacked him! If anyone attacks me, I will probably hurt them, or at least try to. Its a normal reaction for anyone.

    The other nobodies still dont have hearts. You can hate on them. They wont feel it.

    I will still fill bad for them though. :'(

    Also, Nomura was asked several times if Roxas had a heart. He always dodged the question, and one time said Birth By Sleep will reveal the answer. So, Nomura strongly implied that he does have a heart. Otherwise he would have just said, "Shutup, Nobodies dont have hearts!" or something like that.
     
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    The most I can see is an ablility to feel emotions created by the link to Sora's heart.

    When DiZ said special, he meant the foggyness surrounding Roxas's creation. Namely the Mix up with Namine.

    I Cannot see Roxas having a heart. If he gets killed by Axel in that second fight, does he have the same death pose a Sora, with his heart above him?

    Also, the Axel-Roxas scene with "Axel asking Do you have a heart" could be to emphasize that Axel feels emotion due to Roxas, and such. A question by Axel does not make it fact. A disney boss saying "I will destroy you!" does not kill Sora.

    Although, this stance of mine is taken on Roxas from what we know, not considering BBS. I still need to consider Ven's heart.
     
  19. Princess Celestia Supreme Co-Ruler of Equestria

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    But what if DiZ said, "His heart has come in contact with Kairi's."

    Wouldnt that be different than just a question from Axel? Also, it would prove DiZ knew there was more to Roxas than just the way he was created.
     
  20. Dredica SNES was the best.

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    So? Then your theory, well what you just said, would prove that he used to not have a heart! >:0 when he was born! I HATE ROXAS!:sneaky1:
     
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