Abortion

I just wanted to say that the morning after pill is awful on the body- Its effective but it makes you incredibly nauseous and some women can even become ill for days. I worked at a pharmacy for a while in the past and if somebody requested it we had to warn them about the awful side effects. It's still probably- as you say- the best solution to abortion, but can be incredibly agonizing.

I wonder what Christians and other groups against abortion think of the morning after pill. The zygote is barely an embryo- do they still consider it to be against God's teachings?

I do believe abortion should be offered to everybody though- and depending on the situation, even free of charge. (in cases such as rape etc)

 

Ah, I did not know that it made women sick for long and such. Thank you for telling me. I do feel though it is probably still the best way of dealing with it and cheapest. Now that I know the side effects though, it does still make it quite the choice.

I think it depends on the Christian groups as there are some that are very against spermicides and some that are against any form of birth control at all. Those groups, of course, teach abstinence as the best policy until marriage. Some Christians are pretty open and don't care really so I'd imagine the day after pill isn't so bad to them.

 

Well imo there's really nothing wrong with the pill but since I'm barely considered Christian in other religious debates I'm not sure how pressing this is. But just to bring up the spectrum of ideals I'd also like to put this out there.

http://www.amazon.com/CONTROL-CHRIS.../ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top/190-5170118-0612728

 

If the mother is strong hearted, and can support the baby, then, why not?

If she breaks down, then abort/give away for adoption.

Father should get shot too, for not using a condom.

 

Well how do you know that he didn't use a condom? Things just happen sometimes, you know?

 

Don't agree with this, I think it's unfair that people rely entirely on men for the contraception. A responsible woman would have her own method of contraception too.

 

So, use condoms, the pill, and a vasectomy as well? :lolface:

I guess it boils down to how safe you want it.

 

Well, thinking about the massive amount of times that I have responded to this subject, I thought I should respond and give my input.

Okay, so I have always been in agreement with Styx's first post, the fetus is not important until it starts to become a fetus.

 

If it was my embryo, I wouldn't do it.
Anyone else, it's up to them. I support the choice.

 

I have no idea how anyone can say that this is okay.
All religious ideas aside, I can't see how it's moral to kill an innocent child, because you don't want to take care of it. You can always just put it up for adoption or something like that.
In cases of rape or incest, I guess I'm okay with this, kind of, but still...you want to KILL someone just because they weren't conceived correctly? Or they're going to have something wrong with them? It just doesn't seem right.

I hate it when people say "It should be the woman's choice, BECAUSE ITS HER BODY".
Because those babies also have bodies.
I know, because people always tear them apart, limb from limb. It's disgusting.

 

I think pregnacy is a product of unprotected sex. Mistakes do happen, however, there are so many ways to prevent them from happening.

First off all, there is the pill. This pill prevents the woman from getting pregnate.

Secondly there are condoms. Which don't need to be setup in advance. If your getting horny, go to a liquor store before anything happens. Also, you could carry it in advance.

Finally, there is abstinence. I know its the "lame option." But seriously, there are other things you can do other than penetration which you can't get pregnate from, which have the same benefits as sex.


So, with the exception of rape, there is really no excuse for unwanted pregnacy. And therefore is no need for abortion other than irresponsibilty. I really think its a womans choice, but personally I think its morally wrong. If I had any say in the matter, I'd want her to keep it.

 

Yes, there are the pill and condoms, but both of those do tend to fail sometimes.

Xakota, I'll get to you tomorrow. Bedtime for me now.

 

I agree. Accidents happen, but thats no reason to go and kill your kid instead of giving it away if you don't want it.

It's so easy not to get pregnant, but it still happens all the time.

 

Some consider the baby is only a baby when it is infused with blood.

Others consider a baby a baby once they're born.

But, if the mother considers an embryo a baby, then they might be more relucatant to abort the baby.

 

But the unborn child does not need to be taken out and thrown away, the stem cells can be used to prolong someone elses life.


So its not going to waste....

 

oh okay, tell me that when someone tells you that you can kill yourself to prolong someone elses life :lolface:

 

But that different, the zygote is just a bundle of cells, cells that can save another child, So if you rather have the abortion and not let it be used for a good reasn, its just useless..


Use your "Mistake" to help another.

 

I’m all for abortion.

My opinion on this matter is in no way induced by my opinion on children, just for the record.
I think that if the child is going to be brought up by a mother who is
a) Irresponsible
b) Uneducated in the art of contraception
c) Obviously not married with a secure job

So, please tell me, why the hell should a child suffer because the mother and father didn’t wear protection? For the mother to learn a lesson? That is just cruel on the child’s part, and if that child is to be brought up in the wrong environment by the wrong people, and possibly taken into care due to bad living conditions and so on, then how is the mother learning her lesson?
She’ll have a screaming child to dump onto her mother when she goes to school and fuck about in lessons, and come home, work on a Saturday, get her money, buy booze, **** and whatever the hells SHE wants, and then work on the kid.
But oh no, if that happens in this country, child benefits gets dished out to the pathetic scum who spend it on crap for themselves.

I’m just speaking this from what I have seen around me, and therefore my opinion has built from this.

Abortion should remain legal.
(Damn, I get easily annoyed on this subject.)

 

That's almost like saying, "Hey guys, the world sucks anyways and you'll only suffer if you attempt to live out your life so lets kill everyone to save them from suffering. Yay for suicide and murder."

A life is a life and even if you're attempting to so-called "save" that life by not allowing it to live, it's still killing them. I won't argue with the rest, considering you made it a point to tell us what kind of mother you were referring too, but this is only one scenario out of many.

I believe that abortion should remain legal. Personally, I don't agree with it, but I don't have any right to dictate what a mother does with her child. ​

 

So, I have grasped the fact that when the foetus is yet to be developed, it is still classed as killing them.
I know I stated one of many situations, but that is probably one of the predominant in my mind at this moment in time. I mean, we could list hundreds of different scenarios and what could happen if the child is/isn’t aborted, but I’m not going to waste my time and energy doing so.

Going with the situation I stated as an example, would you still agree with the infant living a bad childhood? Having a bad up bringing around bad influences? Do you still think its right to put a child through that, all for the sake of a small foetus that people feel is wrong to kill, despite it having no feelings or emotions at all?