A Satanists Reality

quoted for truth thank you england i was having trouble finding the right words to describe that because i overuse my high vocabulary

 

You know what? I'm sick and tired of religion. Period. I don't care what you want to worship, keep it to yourself. I'm sick of people killing each other because of different opinions as to whether or not an invisible man in the sky exists, or a horned demon exists underground, or whatever the hell you guys read. I'm sick of all the fighting that goes on in real life and in internet forums. If it weren't for people killing each other over gods, many of the worst things ever to happen to humanity could've been prevented, and gay marriage wouldn't be a "threat". I'm sick of the majority of the threads in this blasted section being about stinkin' religion, whether it be debates between Atheists and religious folks, or stuff of this caliber. You know what? being an Agnostic surrounded (and raised) by Catholics isn't so fun either, but you don't see ME complaining about it, starting threads as I swim in a pit of self-pity. And on the other hand, I don't go insulting people based on what I think that particular religion or does, just because my mommy raised me telling me it's okay. Who cares what Satanists do, can't we all just frieking get along? Why is that so difficult? Are we all really that pathetic? Is being a devil worshipper or whatever you guys call it that big of a deal? Can't we just make our own individual choices?

 

So it's basically hedonism. Self-indulgence being the highest goal and all.
So if someone finds primitive pleasure in raping his daughter, he should just go ahead and do it regardless of social conventions. Make no mistake: that is what your Satanism defends.

 

You have no idea how much I've wanted to say this but just didn't want to get flamed.

 

I dont intend to flame I just wanted to clairify something:

...if this is what you worship, whats the difference between satanists and animals? You pretty much described animalistic behaviors.

 

actually we have a list of sins and harming children is one of the absolute biggest ones

man is an animal sometimes better usually worse than our 4-legged counterparts. paraprased from Dr. LaVey

 

Personally i don't dislike bible beaters or the religious as long they are not ignorant extremists who use scripture as there own justification for their wrongs, quoting scripture and secred text with no idea of there actual meaning. I find the trully religious to actually be enlightening sometimes. Even though i mightn't agree with them, at least they have genuine wisdom and belief in their religion, not justification for themselves.

 

But if that what you worship isn't absolute, then how can you say you really worship it?
I don't mean to flame but it sounds like many people could just choose this particular set of morals out of convenience.

 

we worship ourselves in a way but we also have morals, though our set of rights and wrongs are loose, in a way it is the only thing all true satanists agree on since we believe worshiping another god is just worshipping the person who made it since humans make gods not the other way around. now even though we call ourselves our own gods that doesnt mean we see ourselves as omnipotent or untouchable. one of our statements involves following the laws and also ensuring swift justice to those who break those laws because laws are important for order. also, yeah if one didnt think ahead and truly wish to be a satanist then yeah they could choose those morals but they would recieve no support from the church of satan. now back to my point we do have an absolute to worship and that absolute would be ourselves

 

Okay, so just for clarification, you worship yourselves, but only if you follow a certain set of morals.
If you ever break these morals, you are no longer allowed to worship yourselves? Or do you just worship yourselves anyway?
It sounds to me like worshiping "Carnal instincts" and "yourselves" is just another way of saying your religion lets you do whatever you want without taking actual responsibility.

 

only true satanist follow those morals if they dont they are not true satanists and will be expelled from the church but anyone can worship themselves but only true satanists respect both the law and themselves while worshiping themselves. we take full responsibility for what we do and no our religion diest allow us to do whatever we want please dont mistake us for the catholic church and yes what im saying may be offensive to a few people but we follow all laws and take responsibility for everything we do that is a satanists nature thats why there arent many of us because not many people truly think this way

 

Relax, I don't think you're offending anything except the Grammar Nazi in me.
So, if you break ANY of these laws, even ONCE, you are immediately excommunicated from the church? I'm not trying to offend you here either, but that sounds like a pretty Catholic vibe to me.

 

yeah thats a problem that i feel too but its not only once but its not the moral code so much as the law like i said the moral code is loose but established laws are not. but as a rule we believe in love ONLY for those who deserve it. but as such we may forgive someone of a violation of a sin but once you go to jail you are FUCKED and on your own

 

okay, now once again let me get this straight, who is this "we" that decides whether or not someone is forgiven for a violation?

 

Coming from a Catholic, I always thought Satanists were like Atheists. I could care less you if believe in God or not. We know there may or may not be a God, but I don't think it's fair for people to force religion onto you. This country was made to be a free and independent nation. Not some Christians trying to start wars with Satanists.

 

mostly the higher ups but also i use we to refer to the satanic community as a whole buut mostle it is done by individual satanists on an individual basis

 

higher ups? Could you clarify please?
So if you Satanists just keep forgiving each other, it doesn't even matter?

 

priest,magus, high magus etc.

most will not forgive the others if said member has harmed that person in anyway

 

This is starting to sound really Catholic.
So if people just keep committing sins but other Satanists keep forgiving them, it doesn't really matter, does it?

 

non-members wont be forgiven and also true satanists care only for themselves so many wont forgive. also we stole christian terminology to mock them because most satanists do NOT like christians