Birth by Sleep A hypothetical question

Discussion in 'Kingdom Hearts HD II.5 ReMIX' started by daxma, Jan 6, 2009.

  1. daxma Hei Long: Unrivalled under the Heavens

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    Had anyone thought that there is an organisation shaded into the background of BBS?I mean i don't have any proof of it but at the same time do you think it's possible that some people are manipulating the events in BBS like the other five founding members of Organisation XIII because they seem to have mentioned at one time or another something about BBS especially Xigbar,who i think is Master Xeahnort.
     
  2. Magick ~Meaner then my demons~

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    god I hope not, because I am getting sick of their manipulations and plans that we have to stop. It doesn't help that their plans kill off my favorite characters.
     
  3. Scott Pilgrim Banned

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    I think Terra and Xehanort are the same person. This is an old theory, but I think it's the most plausible one. He had lost all his memories, which signifies a major event, but what exactly I wonder?
     
  4. Boy Wonder Dark Phoenix in Training

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    same here, I even wrote a theory on it lol

    but i think there is an organization behind the scenes.
    if not an Organization, we at least know Maleficent is pulling some strings.
    Maybe BBS is when Maleficent pulls together all the disney villains from KH1?
     
  5. XienZo Traverse Town Homebody

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    I think Xigbar will most certainly at least make random background appearances. Other member's somebodies besides the apprentices might appear too, like Saix's and Marluxia's, since they seem to have an interesting history.
     
  6. Boy Wonder Dark Phoenix in Training

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    yea
    Xigbar seemed like he was more important KH2 let us believe.
    it would be awesome if Saix's and Marluxia's somebodies show up. I want to see how they were as a whole, even Axel's
    i wonder wat Marluxia's real name is
     
  7. The Joker Gummi Ship Junkie

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    It could be possibel. They could control Light instead of Darkness or Nothingness. Leading to the theory that Unbirths could be beings of Light/Soul.

    Could a Unbirth result when a wielder of a Keyblade unloacks his/her Heart to Light instead of darkness? Perhaps that would explain why the apprentice has the clothing Riku wore when he was possesed. Perhaps when they unlock their Heart to the light their Darkness has to go somewhere and it goes to the apprentice.

    "Already that man is a monster infused with darkness."
    I belive that is Master Xehanort saying that he is ashamed that his apprentice has already given into/is close to giving into the darkness that was once Master Xehanort's since he was infused with it. This is supported by the apprentice wearing the clothes Riku wore while using darkness and being possesed by it so it is possibbly hinting that the apprentice himself is possesed with darkness.

    "Those who submit to darkness are not qualified to wield the keyblade."
    I think Master Xehanort is saying that nether he or is apprentice is fit to wield a keyblade since they have both given into darkness during some time during their life. Perhaps he is mocking Terra Aqua and Ven for not being a being f pure light and soul.

    Perhaps after the Blue Kingdom Hearts the apprentice posseses Terra or whoever becomes Xehanort hinting to Terra's yellow eyes. He might just rejoin with his master and his master becomes over controlled with darkness. If Xehanort can posses Riku then the apprentice might be able to do the same.

    I believe that whoever the apprentice possesed whoever became the Xehanort from Kingdom Hearts and Xemnas of Kingdom Hearts II. Xehanort in Kingdom Hearts can call upon a Pure Heartless he calls "Guard." This helps supports this part of the theory by the apprentice being able to split in two. When Xehanort split into two (Heartless and Nobody) perhaps the part of the apprentice that was inside of him split in two as well. The darkness forming "Guard," and the nothingness/body creating the Xemnas clone we see in the final battle.

    Also where did the other apprentices of Ansem come from and why were their Nobodys so strong? Perhaps they were Unbirths that had a strong Heart of pure light and they were turned into strong Nobodys?
     
  8. daxma Hei Long: Unrivalled under the Heavens

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    I've made most of those assumation before this time as you have possibly seen and i do believe some of them except for one which i know is wrong.Master Xehanort has long since cast away his darkness in the form of his apprentice and i believe that in the end the darkness infuses with terra to form Xehanort.When the two separte i think that the heartless we know to be xehanorts is the majority of the apprentices being because i think that the heartless "Guard" was the guardian in it's true form while Xemnas is mostly terra because he seeks to revive his lost friends at any cost.I believe that xigbar is Master Xehanorts nobody because he knows more than mostand he claims to have been there at the battle at the crossroads but he doesn't have all his memories because as you see in the scene with Zexion, he cannot remember everything about what happened because he asks zexion for his lexicon to know what happened in the past.I think that xigbar doesn't know that he was Master Xerhanort but an onlooker to the event.Zexion knows about the events of BBS but he never trusted anyone within the organisation with his knowledge and the information died with him in Castle Oblivion.

    just to say,this is a discussion about a possibility of another organisation not anything else.I'm sorry to say i have drifted off the subject but it lead me to find a good theory.
     
  9. XienZo Traverse Town Homebody

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    I don't think that bolded part quite happened, but the rest totally possible. Now, I don't believe they will put an ENTIRELY NEW Organization, because BBS is much more Disney related than KHII was, but more like KHI, so they won't have space to introduce a new organization within the plotlines unless you want the most obscure, crammed storyline ever, so thats probably not going to happen.