3DPD gonna 3DPD

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  1. Makaze Some kind of mercenary

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    That is a shallow way of looking at it. I am resigned to the fact that at some point, I will have no more to gain from someone, and I think that once they know that it won't be a happy relationship even if I try to hold it together. More often the other person gives up on me. I have never given up on anyone, because I have never been with someone long enough for that. But I acknowledge that it could happen. It would take a lot more than five years.

    Why aren't you thinking of how to make use of the strength rather than worrying about the time you may or may not have wasted?

    You sound defeatist.

    Probably not.

    I'll tell you what. If you ever become a captain of a shrimping boat, I'll be your first mate.

    Then you are basically happy with unconditional love for the sake of itself and feel no need to feel loved in return.

    Why make the effort to love them, then?

    I don't go into it with that idea, I just don't feel that it has to last forever and know that it probably won't. I go into it knowing they don't owe me anything and I don't owe them anything. It's mutually beneficial and that's it. If it stops being mutually beneficial then it won't work out. That's how things work. It's why I am so picky with whom and what I love; I only love things that are going to make me happy enough or help me grow enough to make up for the emptiness when they leave me. I'm more of a romantic than you, I think, I'm just bad at expressing it.
     
  2. Jube Formerly Chuck's

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    Because my time is very important to me.
    I don't like having it wasted in the slightest, it's annoying.
    Whatever get's you to sleep at night
    I am
    It would be cool to be loved back but that's not possible as there's no human being in this world who I love in that way and vice versa.
    I make the effort to love because being in love is better then not being in love to me.
    Well good luck with that.
     
  3. Makaze Some kind of mercenary

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    I feel the same way. I make an effort for certain people because it is more enjoyable than not doing so.

    But here is where we differ: I view loving as better than not loving because of the gain. Being in love is enjoyable because it makes everything more vibrant, it shows me things about the world and myself that I wouldn't notice otherwise. It makes me care about others. I get happy when they succeed and sad when they do not. It polarizes my emotions. But without that gain, the effort is wasted.

    Your love benefits no one but yourself and is yet is still costing, so it seems like you are taking a drug alone in a room to me as opposed to being in a relationship.
     
  4. Jube Formerly Chuck's

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    You're inclined to view it anyway you want
    To me it's just an unrequited love.
     
  5. Makaze Some kind of mercenary

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    Either one. The difference being that a waifu is fixed and cannot disappoint you even from afar. It is an object, not a being. Like a drug.
     
  6. Jube Formerly Chuck's

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    I don't understand how being ideal makes her an object
    To me she's something beyond human, something better. A better person existing in a better world
     
  7. kitty_mckechnie I want to hug you like big fuzzy Siberian bear!

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    Jube, who's your waifu? You've probably mentioned it before but I don't think I've seen it.
     
  8. Jube Formerly Chuck's

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    Aozaki Touko
     
  9. Makaze Some kind of mercenary

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    It doesn't, they are unrelated. No object can disappoint you, even from afar, because it is an object and is fixed. Once you know it, it stays that way. That does not make every object ideal. She is an object because she does not change. Once you know her, she will always be what you know her as. Like a rock.
     
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    This is still going?
     
  11. Makaze Some kind of mercenary

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    Not so much, I think we have both come to a conclusion of agreeing to disagree already. Right now we are just trying to understand each other, or something.
     
  12. Jube Formerly Chuck's

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    And that's part of what makers her so much her so much superior to 3D.
    She's perfect atleast in my eyes and always will be. She is not plagued by the faults that 3DPD are plagued by everyday. Marriages and relationships start because someone is attracted to a certain quality of another, over the years once that quality diminishes or cannot be shown as clearly it was before the relationship is over; it's a fundamental flaw. My waifu does not have to go through this, she is not an object but rather perfection. If I were to leave my waifu it's not her fault but rather mine.
    She's not missing a dimension, I have one too many.
     
  13. Saxima [screams geometrically]

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    Why does this thread still breath the spam-polluted air of the SpamZone?
     
  14. Jube Formerly Chuck's

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    Why not?
    We're not doing anything to hurt you.
     
  15. Saxima [screams geometrically]

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    Nyeeh ~

    I suppose not, but I think arguing over . . . uhm, waifu stuff is a bit silly. >~>
     
  16. KeybladeSpirit [ENvTuber] [pngTuber]

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    I totally agree.
     
  17. Makaze Some kind of mercenary

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    If I may extend, it is not always that they change. Just as often (and more so in my life), the person who got attached to them stops being attracted to that trait or finds another trait that is more attractive. The person keeps the trait that was attractive, but their partner stops being so attracted to it.

    This is your model of a 3DPD relationship:

    • Person A falls in love with Person B because of Trait X.
      [*]Person B falls in love with Person A because of Trait Y.
    There are two ways for such a relationship to lose its richness.

    Reasons for Person A to lose attachment:

    1. Person B loses Trait X.
      [*]Person A loses interest in Trait X.
    Reasons for Person B to lose attachment:

    1. Person A loses Trait Y.
      [*]Person B loses interest in Trait Y.
    Both of these risks are present at any time. You still have the second option as a risk in a waifu attachment, it is just a risk of personal failure; the problem is internal.

    You do not see the risk of personal failure as a risk?
     
  18. Jube Formerly Chuck's

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    I've told you over and over again that I'm not going to lose interest in my waifu because I have no reason to. She's everything I need. I need no more then perfection because perfection is the most you can get.
    I also don't see how I'm risking personal failure
    Failure implies that there is some sort of negative punishment for my actions or lack of action.
    From what I can see I haven't failed in anything.
    Unless hating 3DPD is a failure.

    I don't think you understand what's going on in this thread
     
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    I see don't see it as failure, but it is a flaw. Just because it's not your preference doesn't mean you have to recognize it as bad. Don't you know a "3DPD" whose platonic company you enjoy? Not all male/female relationships are romantic, you know.
     
  20. Jube Formerly Chuck's

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    3DPD only applies to women. There is only one woman I know from this generation who is not 3DPD.
    Most women I know of are either 3DPD or are from an older generation then I.
    I guess it's a flaw by social standards but since when have I cared about society?