358/2 Days 14th Organization Member.... Whaaa!?!

Discussion in 'Kingdom Hearts HD I.5 ReMIX' started by twilightsbringing, Sep 21, 2007.

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  1. Noise For Love and Justice

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    shes going to KICK a$$


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  2. Gravity Chaser

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    I don't think it's Aqua, and I don't think it's going to be a character that we've seen before. They probably just made a totally different character and found a way to plug her into the rest of the story somehow. It sounds like a fangirl's dream to me, but heck...I'm not complaining. Too many guys...

    I hope she doesn't turn out to be the world's evilest Mary-Sue, created by the daughter of Nomura's cousin or something stupid like that. >.<
     
  3. Noise For Love and Justice

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    ohhhhhhh that would be bad!!

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  4. Akino King's Apprentice

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    *Clings onto the 14th member* NOOOO! She better not be a mary-sue from the Darkness! She's too good for that stuff.
     
  5. methol Merlin's Housekeeper

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    VERY GOOD THEORY RIGHT HERE

    well seeing as xehanort (old man version) is the xehanort before he was turned into a heartless obviously this new game will sort out his past story.
    i have no idea as to the possible connection with ven-roxas-sora except for the obvious look alike similaritys but hey its possible the sora is a relative of ven right?

    anyway back to xenmans-aqua connection.

    we know that secret scenes in KHII:FM took place before the actual kingdom hearts 2 game as we hear zexion and others talking about the recruitment of Marluxia. in this scene zexion or vecen speaks about the room of sleep or something like that and then later we see xenmas entering this room and we see aquas armour on the floor.

    xenmas says "hello old friend"....its well known that you lose all memories of your past being when you become a nobody or a heartless SOOO there is no way he is possibly able to remember who aqua was unless he knew who her while in the nobody form.

    now we must be reminded of something.
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    xehanort has gone through 2 transformations

    1 is from an old man to the young xehanort or ansems apprentice

    2 is from ansems apprentice into the heartless form and the nobody form

    Twice he has lost his memories.

    so wether or not xehanort has become a heartless twice or a nobody twice is unkown but if it is true then its very possible that we know of his nobody and his other heartless in some way shape or form, who it is i dont know.

    BUT

    we know that where this room that aquas armour is found is in a jail area where we can assume is called the "basement" that test subjects were kept as seen in the ansem reports....if this is correct then we would assume that aqua became a test subject of ansems and thus turned into a heartless or a possible nobody.

    if xenmas regained these memories and made his way down to the basement and found aquas nobody he would no doubt recruit her....why she wasnt a part of the original 13th org i dont know.

    but it would explain the armour on the floor and the relinquished keyblade as a nobody couldnt carry it.

    just my theory so heres a summary.

    - its possible xehanort could have 2 heartless and 2 nobody forms

    - i dont know the ven-roxas-sora link

    - aqua could of been the test subject of ansem and so the new nobody is aquas nobody

    - its possible that xenmas has regained his memories of his past beings through reports or other means.


    besides that i really dont know but hey its the best we got.

    also im preety sure the mobile game should be disregarded as a peice of money making fiction that will work much like COM did

    XxmetholxX
     
  6. SoulSlayer Traverse Town Homebody

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    You already start out wrong. Master Xehanort (bald man) was not the one to turn himself into a heartless. That was Professor Xehanort. Here's a picture of him. He experimented on himself and turned himself into a heartless which also created a nobody. I don't see why I should read the rest of your theories when you already start with such a big mistake. Also, personally I think Professor Xehanort is Master Xehanort's apprentice (wearing the helmet and the suit Riku wears when in dark mode).
     
  7. Luka Deafening silence

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    yeah i think there's two xehanorts too
     
  8. [s y n n e ] Twilight Town Denizen

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    I think we need pictures in our post too @___@

    @methol:

    I think i got more confused...I got it - but then I got lost in my thoughts .... maybe someone should draw a diagram...
     
  9. Lord Knight Xiron Hollow Bastion Committee

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    Uhh...yeah.

    Baldy's name is Xehanort. That means nothing. How many Ansems have there been so far? This confirms that the Xehanort we know is connected to Master Xehanort somehow, but not that they are the same person. Anyone else realize here that baldy and Xehanort look nothing alike other than their choice of clothing?

    You don't lose your memories when you become a nobody. Roxas did either because Sora regained his body and continued living as Sora, or because Namine screwed Sora's memories so badly. I don't know which, but it is special to Roxas. Remember, Xemnas remembers abandoning the name Xehanort for Ansem as well as the heartless factory and the password to get into the Room of Sleep, and others give hints that they remember their former selves.

    And nobodies can carry keyblades, unless I missed something and Roxas isn't really using keyblades.

    I do agree that the Room of Sleep is the prison where they kept their test subjects. Especially since it is right below the heartless factory. I also agree with that Aqua may have been one of the expiriments (I mean, hey. If you were testing the darkness of the heart, wouldn't you want to test out a keybearer?)
     
  10. Goofy Twilight Town Denizen

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    Hm.. I'm thinking it COULD be either Aqua's nobody, or a one-off character. If it's a one-off character, she has a slim possibility of being related somehow to the main characters (like somebody jokingly said it COULD be Sora's mom for all we know) but one thing's for sure, if Xemnas welcomed her in, and noticing how I-VI refer to their "recruits", she must be a Nobody for her to have been taken in by the Organization. So, best chances are that she is related to Aqua, or she is her own character, and something became of her that caused her not to be with remaining faction of the Organization during KHII... Doesn't QUITE mean she was offed, but does mean something between her and the other Organization members happened...
     
  11. key dragon One with the keyblade

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    AQUA...IS...NOT...SORA'S...MOM...
     
  12. Knightshade Hollow Bastion Committee

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    Well one thing we pretty much know is that this 14th member is still alive. So I could see a new organization 13 in future games.
     
  13. Akino King's Apprentice

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    How do we know the 14th member is still alive during the time of KH2? For all we know, she could have faded back into the darkness.
     
  14. Knightshade Hollow Bastion Committee

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    I know i'm just saying most likely she's alive.
     
  15. Xerokuzai Traverse Town Homebody

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    Maybe the 14th member became whole again

    in COM i don't seem to remember them trying or discussing becoming whole again

    (if they did talk about that in COM ignore this post)

    And so maybe she was the first one to do it, and they wanted to follow her lead

    Their original goal might have been something completely different then finding their hearts
     
  16. Goofy Twilight Town Denizen

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    I didn't say that at all. You must have missed the point.
     
  17. Thebazilly King's Apprentice

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    Actually Axel said to Larxene in CoM, "Isn't that the entire point of the Organization? To understand the mysteries of the heart?" Which implies that they were looking for hearts then, too.
     
  18. Xerokuzai Traverse Town Homebody

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    But does it imply that they knew they could become whole again with kingdom hearts?

    seems more like they were stll just looking to study them from what you said
     
  19. Thebazilly King's Apprentice

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    *Shrugs.* You could be right. There's just not enough evidence right now.
     
  20. Xerokuzai Traverse Town Homebody

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    true but its always fun to theorize right?

    I'm most likely wrong like usual xD
     
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