Peace and War

Sorry I couldn't make it. I went to go hang out with friends.

I'm lagging really badly

You fool others into questioning themselves, do you think it manipulation of a sort?

Are you going to get on?

You are in a mood to lecture?

What I labeled as "noble" could hardly be called out as "to give out our care support of each other". Or "kindness". Thinking you sometimes forget what was said, redirecting the conversation to other things.

>I fool and question others for them to question themselves and their faith and abilities. Questions make us smarter and wiser, and I wish others to try and achieve more from life.

Sounds oddly like what Makaze has said to me, and what he does; manipulating others for the greater good, so that they can, and I quote verbatim, become more like him. An improvement in his eyes. His excuse is that all forms of speech are manipulation, all forms of interaction are. I could not possibly accept that as it is, manipulation has such a bad ring to it.

I don't know if I disagree with him. I am inclined to. Uncertain. But it reminds me very much of what you do, in a way.

Good thing you pointed that out, had been afraid you wouldn't. I have the unbelievably obnoxious and nerve-wreaking habit of pointing out my flaws whilst still writing, that is one I noticed. That I shouldn't demand (I am inclined to believe it is because I am not open to seeking out fresh cheese). Restless. How impatient of me. Impatient. Makes me think of feet tapping rapidly, like Sonic the Hedgehog? Now if only he were a rodent. Picture perfect.



I had thought that WAS from the Phantom of the Opera. It isn't? Not related in the least?

You are right in thinking that... there can be quite a bit not shown online. For instance, my social awkwardness - does it show through? I didn't think so. At least, I seem far more involved on here. More personality. Can't tell if my apparent lack of personality is because I simply haven't associated myself with others enough (lack of observation), or because I really do lack personality. Think it is that I haven't observed enough. Feelings indescribable left alone in the dark gutters.

Questioning for the good of us all? Noble. But why must you hide your intentions to do so? Know where to draw the line? I would also ask you, why do you possess such need for nobility? What need is there? To have us reach into a garbage bag and grab about, searching aimlessly; reminds me of your little chat with Makaze, your "selflessness"...

*squinting eyes* would have liked to expand on this, but staring at the screen... for too long...

Eye ache.

I am getting that feeling again - instinctive - and perhaps I shouldn't rely on instinct alone, acting entirely without thought. Got that same vibe again once you said, "I try to speak much in order to fool others so they believe I act in one certain way."

Doubting. Dr. Doctor, you assert your own apparent trustiness, but there you speak of fooling us. Are we quite as stupid as you think?

Speaking of our conversations as if I am the only one who could get anything from it, but what of you? I'm not interested in unilateral relations. You aren't the sole provider of the house; women are beginning to switch roles with men, so cough up and lower your self for once, haughty, naughty doctor.* Degiberrishing. You're being like so many others, not letting your guard down. No, I am not interested in you if you don't lower it, else it would be terribly one-sided. If we did start to talk, I couldn't see much development - we'll be forever acquaintances, probably.

*Meant to be taken lightly, said with amusement. Have learnt over time that my "amusement" can be taken as other things, e.g. aggression. Something like that. Damn it, what fun are jokes explained? I mustn't even bother.

Did I call you untrustworthy? You are a raccoon. Yes. Or a rat? Parallel of moi from the underworld. No, I really prefer the raccoon.

Errr. you choose.

When necessity calls for it you can be damned perceptive, little hints of insight scattered about; you do overestimate yourself (noisy arrogance!), I should add, but I suppose even the most noisily arrogant are not to be underestimated. It is because of your overestimations that I underestimate. I instinctually flinch when dealing with arrogance - find you not wholly trustworthy, to be honest. And I had asked if you stalked, for I have been called "mouse", or "mousey" by numerous other people, not on this forum even. Induced some slight paranoia. Coincidence.

Didn't mean to offend with the above... in my experience people tend to reject brutal honesty.

If I am a mousey then what ever are you? You claim to be no cat. How about a... *stemming a blank*. Need to think up an animal for you.

You can change your mind, but at the time, you feel that it will be the most pleasurable response. It does not have be very pleasurable. It can be lessening pain, and it would still be the most pleasurable result. If you sacrifice your life for another's, you do it because you find that more pleasing than the alternatives. You might feel terrible about every outcome, but that does not stop you from picking the most pleasing one out of the lot

I do not believe that selflessness exists. Taking yourself out of the act of perception is flawed, so taking yourself out of any act that you commit is flawed as well. Selflessness exists as a concept, and it is an admirable concept, but in reality, you help others because seeing them pleased makes you pleased, and not simply because seeing them pleased is a good thing. Being pleased at the pleasure of others could be called selflessness, but it is not entirely accurate, as you are still trying to remove yourself from the equation by using the word.

You do. Your strongest impulses win out, deciding your every action. You did it to satisfy yourself in one way or another. It is true that adding to the positive value of the world makes it more positive by some degree, but if it did not make the world a better place, and you did not profit from it, then it would be a worthless pursuit. Unless you just plain enjoyed it, in which case it would be hedonism all the same.

Where did you get the mousey nickname from? Are you stalking me?

I have respect for that mentality. The only reason to be kind of others and do better by the world is so that the world does kind by you. If it did not increase the overall value, then it would be a fruitless effort...

You think it predictable? I view all action as hedonism. Every person is doing what pleases them most, whether they acknowledge it or not. What I need is easily synonymous with the good of all if I prefer it that way. That will please me more than the alternatives, so I seek it. Seeking pleasure as the basis of morality. It is one of the least predictable philosophies because it relies purely on what a person wants out of life, and that is not always so predictable as you make it seem. Hedonism implies seeking pleasure, but it does not imply seeking temporary pleasure to your detriment later. That is a lack of logic and common sense, and there is no philosophy behind it. It is up to the hedonist to think things through and plan out the path that will pleasure him the most, and not just to enjoy the moment regardless of a wider spectrum of things.

You should watch it; it is one of my favorite films and it is somewhat important to me.

I do. I just hope that I do not hurt my partners too badly...

You do not need to tell me twice. As a hedonist, I will anything that I can enjoy for the thing that it is, rather than denying enjoyment in lieu of more.

You have read the The Ripliad? Or have only heard of it?

I meant the film. I have not read the books yet. His notions of affection are what I was speaking of. He seemed similar to me in the movie.

I think I fear it unnecessarily, because no one has ever rejected my advances. Not since I was a kid... Some things worked, and some things did not, but they never rejected me.

You could say that, but functionally, we are just really close friends. There is nothing romantic in it... For now.

Oh, no worries. It is just a passing fancy. I am interested in both groups... And generally dislike stereotypes of either sexuality. The Talented Mr. Ripley is a good example of what I like in such things...

I do not have any woes, because I do not have any expectations. I fear getting my heart broken too much to fall in love with people. Or I used to think so.

I have never been turned by a romantic interest. I am not sure if it is because I choose good targets, or because I am charming. Either way.

I won't. Someone else expressed affection for me yesterday. It was rather shocking. I had not been expecting it. I have not had a male express genuine interest in me yet. Pity.

You are damn charming.

But so am I, I think. Or I just have really good luck.