358/2 Days XIV member: Pro-Organization or Anti-Organization?

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  1. Flamedancer Twilight Town Denizen

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    Okay, so, this is something I've been thinking about lately. We know that Member XIV heavily influences Roxas to leave the Organization to find out about the Keyblade. But...is it because she wants the Organization to come to an end, like Axel did after Roxas left, or is she more like Marluxia and Larxene, manipulating the Keyblade Master to gain control of the Organization? If you think about it, either one works. If she wants to gain control, then Roxas should learn about the Keyblade and, when he realizes his full potential, come back and fight against Xemnas. In a battle like that, it's a win-win: If Roxas kills Xemnas, he'll still side with Member XIV, because it's pretty much her doing that led him to his power (Of course, we could get into the whole thing about his new 'I'm more superior than you because I have the Keyblade and I rock' complex and then he kills her, but for the sake of simplicity, I'm sticking to my first idea.) And if Xemnas wins, the Keyblade, since it's so powerful, will have weakened him, and Member XIV can finish him off and then have no competition with Roxas.

    But, if she wants the Organization to end, then convincing Roxas to learn about the Keyblade will strengthen him (because if she's anti-Organization, she's probably about Axel-level on the friendship scale with Roxas) and he'll realize that he can take down the Superior and the rest of the Organization.

    And then, either way, it's easy to see why she's gone: because she's a traitor. With both reasons, she going against Xemnas, and that always ends in certain death (Look at CoM. Everyone going against the Organization died.). Reason #1 is for her own personal gain, and reason #2 is to abolish something she's already agreed to join.

    So, yeah. Those are my thoughts on Member XIV.
     
  2. Chevalier Crystal Princess

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    this is really well thought out

    but just one thing, roxas left the organization, he never fought xemnas.

    and, i don't really think that the 14th member is really greedy.

    and more importantly , if she is aqua, wouldnt she want to help roxas because he sorta looks like ven?

    i think the 14th member will act like namine did on KH2.
     
  3. Flamedancer Twilight Town Denizen

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    Well, what I meant was that he leaves to go learn about the Keyblade, then XIV comes and calls him back. Like that, only it never happened because she was killed.
     
  4. Chevalier Crystal Princess

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    wow thats kinda harsh.

    but , it makes some sense.
     
  5. Shift Chaser

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    I liked your theories but, what did you mean by "Gone because she was a traitor"?

    Of course,she's will (If that's the case)die because of it,but she wasn't recorded at the proof of existence or at the garden of assemblege,and other traitors like Marluxia,were.

    To be "erased" from the "data" of these two places she should have done something worse than what Marluxia did.
    But,what could be worse than what Marluxia did?
     
  6. Mithril Sora Banned

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    Namine. I know it isn't Namine who's the new member, but when you think about it, Namine's done some pretty bad stuff to the Org.

    Anyways, I'm pro Org.
     
  7. What? 『 music is freedom 』

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    Well, if she left, my guess is that she was Pro-Organization at first, but near the end, when she saw what they were doing, she became Anti and left. Roxas was inspired by her, whatever happened there. Be it a giant fight with Xemnas or something.
     
  8. SpazticFantaztic >:3 Kingdom Keeper

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    I'm thinking Ant because I think instead of something ahppeneing to her, she quits. 15!!!
     
  9. Arch Mana Knight

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    Quoted for truth and justice.
    Yeah, she had to have done something worse than Marluxia or something for Xemnas/(insert character here) to want to erase her from existence. She doesn't have a "tombstone" yet Marluxia and the other traitors do...maybe she's a secret member known only to a few members.
     
  10. Tahno The official Charlie Sheen of Republic City.

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    From what I've looked at it definately isn't Namine.
     
  11. Haseo Knight of Light

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    Quoted for truth.
    She probably is secret since the members in Castle Oblivion didn't even mention her, well that's probably because the idea of her didn't exist yet, but so far Nomura's planned everything before it appeared in the games.
     
  12. Shift Chaser

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    Maybe she entered in the organization later.
     
  13. Haseo Knight of Light

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    That could explain why she didn't have a grave in Proof of Existence. Because it already finished before she joined. That pic of her could be when she first joins.
     
  14. twilightsbringing Twilight Town Denizen

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    Your theory is great and thought out very well. But, I think you have assumed the reason she is gone is because she is a traitor. That is not confirmed. All we know is that she did not appear in KH2. Nomura could throw some wacky plot twist at us that we never could have figured out. She could be in hiding, disguised, the list goes on. Just look at what happened to Riku in KH2. Maybe I am just slow, but at the beginning of the game I had no idea that Riku took on the form of Xehanort's heartless. I never would have thought that could even happen. O.o
    I am not saying theories are bad. In almost all his interviews, Nomura encourages the fans to anticipate and think about the upcoming games.
    But to answer your question about whether the 14th is Pro or Anti, I would say she is pro, but in a much different way than you described. Maybe if I get around to writing a theory, I could explain why. But not now. I have work tomorrow. >.<
     
  15. Roxaspartanti King's Apprentice

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    One problem. Roxas is a soft heart, and he wouldn't betray. He only betrayed to see his somebody...
    cause wouldn't that be cool?
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    I think that Xion and Roxas would have a dispute, like Riku and Xion did when they say, which one of ours is fake?
    Anti org, becuase in a footage, she seems to have many conflicts with organization members, but Xemnas greets her warmly.
     
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