358/2 Days Xion - A Mere Memory

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  1. Vanitas Gummi Ship Junkie

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    Here´s my theory. Xion isnt a nobody :)

    What Xion really is is a memory that has leaked out. It is Sora´s memory of Kairi, which has been possessed by darkness(hence the black hair). Remember the dark memories explained in Reverse/Rebirth.

    Memories really can materialize as proven in Chain of Memories. Namine made the goodluck charm from a false memory. Duh, edited it, but still a memory was made reality.

    Xion: "I cant disappear now..."

    I cant see a nobody saying that, because something that is real cant just disappear. Maybe Xion must disappear from the world, so Sora can retain his memory of Kairi. The keyblade of hers would be made from a memory also.

    So to put it simple:
    Sora cant remember Kairi without Xion going back to Sora´s heart.

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    P.S.
    We could also have a new enemy. Memories from the destroyed hearts, right?

    P.S.p.s.
    Xion might be the emoest person we´ve ever seen in a KH-game.
     
  2. Ralor Twilight Town Denizen

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    That is the main theory of Xion(besides that Xion is a mixture of Sora and Kairis' hearts being released). But you do bring up an interesting point.

    If what you're saying is true, then someone must have made Xion. Even if she is leaked out memories, something or someone must have formed her in that image. Question is, who? She couldn't just form herself like that, after all.
     
  3. Vanitas Gummi Ship Junkie

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    No. I refered to the dark memories introduced in Reverse/Rebirth. All it would have taken to produce Xion is the memory of Kairi materialized and then the darkness would have made it a dark memory. Not being the real Kairi it would be possible to happen.

    Though Im presenting a possibility that Xion actually is based on Kairi. Similar case to that of the Goodluck Charm transforming into another charm, so maybe Kairi was transformed into Xion.

    But then again, you might be right. Maybe it needs someone to do this. I dont see Namine doing it, because she tries to make Sora remember. Maybe it is just naturally happened, because Sora´s heart is connected to Kairi´s so actually Sora made Kairi into Xion :P

    Note the date when Xion enters the organization. It´s after Roxas has entered. Being Kairi´s nobody you would expect her to appear same time with Roxas.
     
  4. Vaxing Twilight Town Denizen

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    i've heard the memory theory before but your the first person i've seen that actually makes it sound plausible. assuming she is a memory she probably has a deep connection with Catle Oblivion. i have a feeling that is where the Organization found her, wandering the halls of the Castle. she could have manifested there when she leaked out of Sora (that sentence sounded much less dirty in my head...). The Organization could have raided the Castle to find her which could have been the reason DiZ moved the pods to Twilight Town.

    just a theory.
     
  5. Magick ~Meaner then my demons~

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    But when Namine was talking to Sora in KHII, when Diz was about to drag her through the portal, she said, and I quote. "You won't disappear. You'll be whole!" So I think nobodies do eventually disappear. She might be a memory, but a memory that strong....
     
  6. Oathkeeper01 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Here we go... Sora is the keyblade bearer, which means he has the strongest heart... So roxas was a higher nobody, he didn't disapear because he had a somebody who needed him to be whole (sora)

    Kairi is one of the 7 princesses... Therefore she was able to transfer her. Heart to sora (another strong hearted person) when she was taken to another world in #1. So when kairi got her heart back, namine didn't disapear because SHE had a somebody to rejoin with. Namine was able to mess with sora's heat because they were joined for a while.

    So if xion (pronounced Zion, a holy city in Jerusalem) is sora's memory of kairi from the darkness, then for sora to be whole. She would need to rejoin with him.

    But don't get confused... All of the other 12/13 did die because there was (so far as we know) no one for them to rejoin to. My theory is, though, that zeanort is alive and therefore is rejoined, and full... Because we know that sora killed "ansem" in KH1 therefore releasing zeanort's heart... When xemnas died... His nobody rejoins with his heart making him whole

    Overview:
    Released heart+killed nobody=full person
    1/2 person+their nobody=full person

    So as far as we know, sora still isn't with xion, pulling sora&co. Back into the story!!!!
     
  7. Azure Flame Banned

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    I don't think so. The whole "Nobodies don't dissappear because they are real" is just completely false. Nobodies aren't real. They are nothing. They don't exist, but yet they have a form. Also, they do dissappear. When they fade into the darkness after being defeated, they dissappear. So that right there is disproven. Also, she wouldn't be in the Organization unless she was a Nobody, since it is an organization made up of Nobodies and ONLY Nobodies. It wouldn't make sense if they let someone who wasn't a Nobody in.
     
  8. Pezz Kingdom Keeper

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    Yeah, I believe that this is probably the case, though she is a nobody. A nobody formed from leaked memories to survive. Nobodies rely on memories to survive, so if a memory was leaked, wouldn't it be reason to say that perhaps that memory could take a form and become a nobody.

    Xion without the x is an anagram of No I. she has no somebody. she is a special nobody.
     
  9. xkh2x Traverse Town Homebody

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    good theory! :)
    that's what i thought of too except i couldn't explain it...
    but so far, I'm thinking that Xion is a replica of Kairi. Like, before Vexen made a Riku Replica , he made a Kairi Replica but soon late threw it away 'cos of no data... something like that

    hehehe has anyone realised that throughout the time that Sora is sleeping, Xion is the only one remembers him :)
     
  10. fire mage Hollow Bastion Committee

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    I bet Diz has something to do with it. Riku tells Xion things and that gives her less self esteem. His mission is to protect Sora and make sure nothing happens to him when he is sleeping. Xion is a member of organization XIII and the 14th member which is why Xenmas introduced her to all of the organization members. He is the one who found her. I feel that has memories that are confusing to her and unexplain just like Roxas. While the other members can remember their memories Xion and Roxas have bits of pieces of it. Which could be the heartless fault since Roxas came into the picture when Sora stabbed himself with the keyblade to save Kairi. They share a memory, but may have awaken to early that changed this process.

    There is also a possibly that since she wields a keyblade she may have been created to do the organization's bidding as well like with Roxas in order to gain hearts faster. However, she may be weaker as in screenshots Saix doesn't feel she fits the cateogory of an organization member.

    I have always had that theory that Vexen could be behind this as well, but it is too soon to tell if anyone is right. Though Xion really looks down upon she may try to do something to fight back to get back what she lost. *shrugs*
     
  11. Nuff' Said Banned

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    org. 13 only hires nobodies first off. nobodies can disappear. namine said that in vol. 2 of kh2 comic books. read the books. its within pgs 20-23.
    where's any proof that she could be a memory. she is a nobody because org 13 only hires them. nobody in the series can give truly give life to something.
    it would have to be namine anyway because it was by her power that she gave and took sora's memories. kh has limits to what can be done.
    replicu was made by vexen and diz probably still cant do that. so xion is a nobody not a memory.
     
  12. Kenni-Chan King's Apprentice

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    I like the theory, but I've read a lot up on Xion, and she even notices her strong resemblance to Kairi, so it can't just be a coincidence, and will probably be described later on in the game, but I don't think he rhair has anything to do with dark memories. Maybe she is a combination of both Sora and Kairi, if a Nobody can have two somebodies, even though Kairi can wield a Keyblade, as shown in KH2 which could be a reason as to why Xion has one.
     
  13. Fracture Sαlαmαndєr ™

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    I like your idea...i don't think that she is evil or bad, but maybe just a combination of two people, sounds logical
     
  14. Nuff' Said Banned

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    but org. 13 only hires nobodies people.
     
  15. Boy Wonder Dark Phoenix in Training

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    Just because theyh're mostly made up of Nobodies doesn't mean they won't seek help from others.

    Maybe that's why it doesn't change the name to Organization 14.
    Because there's only 13 Nobodies, Xion is the extra member but not a Nobody.
    But that's jsut a reason.

    I believe Xion is a Nobody, just...different
     
  16. Nuff' Said Banned

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    if she were just a memory they wouldnt have sent axel after her. they would just use her just as they would a heartless then. worthless.
    they changed it back because she probably died by axel's hands. either her or saix because saix gives axel a choice remember. it was something like. whats more important your friendship with roxas or the rules. can someone plz find what the real words are because i cant find em. but i know it took place where you fought xigbar.
     
  17. Boy Wonder Dark Phoenix in Training

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    According to NOmura, they didn't change the name back to Org. 13 from Org. 14.
    They NEVER changed to Org. 14
    He said the reason why would be revealed in the game.

    and if the choice is Roxas or the rules, then Xion has nothing to do with that.

    That scene probably took place near the end when Roxas leaves, so Axel's choice is to kill him (his job as the assassin) or save him and disobey the rules
     
  18. Nuff' Said Banned

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    yes but she left the org. which means she broke the results which means brought back or death. and if you read on khinsider a couple months ago. you would have read that the org. didnt appreciate her joining. and i would like to see proof that nomura said that the name was never changed. and if they never did there is still the matter if she is a memory then she is just as worthless as the heartless in the org. point of view. they would only see her as a tool. also memories are stored inside the heart and as far as we know she doesnt have one even though she seems to have one.
     
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    http://www.kh2.co.uk/?page=NI/KH3582d2

    This interview is almost a year and half old

    Halfway thru the page if you don't feel like reading it yrself, it says this:

    Though there is a 14th Organization XIII Member, it appears to be Namine??
    TN: It is possible to say, but no it's not Namine.

    Then who is this person?
    TN: In Kingdom Hearts II there was Organization XIII, however even when they had 14 members it was still Organization XIII, the reason why they were never known as XIV even though they had 14 members will be understood in this game. She is a key character.
    There's your proof.


    Technically, Xemnas saw EVERYONE in the Organization as HIS tools. That's why he didn't give a damn whether they died or not as long as their part in the plan was fullfilled. Like I said, I don't believe Xion is a memory, she's a Nobody. I think she's a Nobody made from Kairi's heart (yes, I believe she made two separate Nobodies) but using Sora's darkness. And just like Roxas and Namine, she didn't keep any memories, but Namine said "Memories are leaking out from Sora" or something along those lines, those memories went to Xion. Which is why she must cease to exist, to give Sora his memories back.



    Not counting Roxas and Namine because of their uniqueness, The rest of the Organization did not have hearts, but they still had their memories. The heart gives a person emotions, feelings, light and darkness. Memories aren't STORED in the heart (Proof: Organization XIII) but instead they're TIED to heart. Which is why Riku Replica's heart collapsed after his memory collapsed, making lifeless pretty much
     
  20. Nuff' Said Banned

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    now if you would have said that you thought that she was a nobody we wouldnt be having this conversation.

    you might want to go to khinsider because rain has a really good explanation on how xion is actually aqua's nobody.
     
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