Kingdom Hearts II Would this be a plausible theory? (Sora capsule theory)

If this has already been posted, then I don't care. I haven't seen it here before.

Seeing how Sora was in a capsule during the events of 358/2 days, would his mind state have been still stuck as a 14 year old had Roxas, the more mature side of Sora, not merged with him? After all, he probably was hardly thinking in the capsule, so his mind couldn't grow to a 15 year old mind.

Post your thoughts below, or whatever.

 

Well Roxas wasn't his more mature side. He was just his nobody and was the missing piece of the puzzle so he could wake up. Also there isn't that much of change in maturity if the difference is only 1 year.

 

I would have to agree but if you think about it, maturity grows no matter what. That's what I think. But I could be wrong. I'm at a very young age and I was pretty mature for my own good... yet again... this is a game.

I pretty much just contradicted myself..

:P

 

I think Sora was pretty Mature after the events of KH1 and CoM, but Roxas was not all that mature in my veiw, whacking appart computers, screaming at a data-progection, all that hate, it all leads to the fact that he was NOT mature. So it realy wouldn't have helped Sora that much.

 

It wasn't so much immaturity as much as anger.
Roxas was such an angry kid.
He had the same emotions as Sora, but they were exaggerated.

I imagined him as all of Sora's pent up anger multiplied and let loose.

 

Sora is technically very mature for his age if slightly misguided.
He was able to help organise an expedition on a raft to see other worlds, have the ability to cope with losing his home, his parents to a complete and utter darkness. Sora was able to find the ability to cope with losing his friends to darkness and sacrificed himself in order to let Kairi live.
Incredibly courageous and mature about the situation he was thrust into. I don't think it faultered even after sleeping for a year. It's just who he is, not becuase of Roxas.
With Roxas lacking any memory at the beginning of his life, it also meant he lacked any personality becuase he had nothing to base his life from. It seems that over time and gaining friends he developed his own persona.

Roxas, a Nobody, is the body of a person and shouldn't have any affect on the personality, since I believe that comes under the Heart's jurisdiction, if that makes any sense.

 

No. You see, the capsule clearly stunted his mental growth, to the point of decreasing his intelligence. During KH1, he made rational choices, and had goals in mind. In KH2, _Goofy_ was smarter than him, and his entire mindset was something along the lines of "Guys in black hoods=bad". So I'd say he became worse, not better.

 

How does one even grow more mature when one is not even concious? I mean physicaly, yeah sure, but don't you actually have to... you know... live and do stuff, see the world, learn, to grow mature mentally?

 

In theory, yes. But remember, this is a video game. Not real life. This is Nomura world, you only live in it. ;)

 

true, but I still think that Roxas wasn't as mature as Sora, if not for his anger, then for his lack of expirence.

I think that on the other hand, it did not lower his intelligence, for one point, Goofy and Donald slept in capsules too, so your anolagy with goofy doesn't work, and Goofy wasn't dumb, he just veiws the world in an abstract way. Also, Sora realy did have a goal, find Riku and the King, and destroy Org. XIII. So technicaly, then he did think Guys in Black cloaks=bad, but it wasn't his only ideas.

 

I'd argue it affected him more than Goofy, because prior to KH2, Sora was not always lagging behind Goofy, while in KH2, in any scene where something was explained, Goofy would always be way ahead. While Goofy wasn't done, his different methods of thinking meant that he usually would come to the same conclusions slower than normal.

He found the king within the first half hour of gameplay (as Sora), so clearly not that, and the king made it clear enough that he and Riku were okay.

His reason for destroying the org was because the first thing he was told was something along the lines of "They are mysterious and definitely bad, go kill 'em". No thinking for himself.

In KH1, he wasn't depressed, but he wasn't stupid either. In KH2, his mental age decreased to the point of being elated at the idea of meeting Santa and hitting anyone he didn't like.

 

Haha, you make everything seem so... logical, yet at the same time it is amusing. I love everyone's different opinions.

 

Hmmm, you got a good point there, but I also said he figured out some puzzles that would have had other people stumped (think DTD) and Donald also took awhile to see things clearly, but the 'Santa' point has some weight to it, I will go and replay all of kingdom hearts 2 to find something to counter that.

 

Ahh! You really shouldn't have to do that! It's unnecessary! Unless, you want to, I won't stop you... :)

 

What's your point of veiw on this, Phazeun? and I was replaing it anyway :)

 

Squall figured out the password. All Sora really did was make the connection between Door To Darkness and DTD. Not that difficult when all parts of the words except DTD were faded.

Feel free to look for hints on the playthrough. I'd be quite happy to discover that Sora isn't stupid in KH2.

 

Hmmm, my point of view? On the subject?
Okee dokie, be prepared!!!

If Roxas did not merge with him, I think he still would have been the same old Sora we have known and come to love dearly. But more mature. Thus, when we sleep I come to think of it as thinking. Imagining in our unconscious thoughts while sleeping. Now... this would cause for scientific studies, and I honestly don't want to review my books for evidence. ;) I'm too lazy to do it.

Think of it, an unconscious evolution going on in our heads as we sleep at night! SO MANY different functions and processes that all happen at once!

So, my theory is:

Sleep is an unconscious evolution of our (Or Sora's in this case, ;) ) more mature side.

Now folks, this is ONLY A THEORY!! NOT PROVEN AT ALL! (Not yet at least... heehee...

 

...Except for the parts where Axel and Saix appear. 'Cause, you know, just glaring at a guy because you don't trust him is exactly the same as attacking and killing him on command like a dog. :|

But who cares, y'know? KHII is a piece of crap because it wasn't written by the same person who wrote KHI and everybody who thinks that Sora grew more mature in KHII is wrong. Okay? Okay.

*goes and sits in the corner*

I don't think Sora's an idiot, I just think he's a dork. Your mind doesn't mature if you're asleep for a year... and it especially can't if Roxas is kicking and screaming trying to get out, and it's even worse if you're the kid with a Peter Pan complex goin' on. Note that when Roxas accepts being part of Sora, he's not brilliantly fast, but he at least concentrates a bit more.

Oh, and Squall didn't figure out the DTD password. Mickey gave it to him.

 

In the case of Saix, Sora would have been significantly better off if he had fought him. Glaring was the wrong choice here. Axel was helping him get to Kairi, and I credit Sora with the ability to know not to attack those who are helping you.

Sorry, my sarcasm detector is having difficulty deciphering your post, as it shuts down when overloaded with sarcasm and hyperbole. Could you manually translate please?

Squall figured out it was the Princesses, Mickey gave him the names. Even so, it doesn't make much of a difference, as the question was whether Sora figured it out.

 

Ahh, but Axel was the one that TOOK Kairi in the first place, If Sora wasn't thinking then he would have not cared what Axel told him, and then beat him to pulp.

and I have a new theory about Sora and Goofy, I think that Namine accidentaly put all of Sora's brains in Goofy! :stupid: