Kingdom Hearts II why Roxas has a heart?

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  1. Roxazthelight Hollow Bastion Committee

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    hmm, i always skip the cutscene, sorry :nono:
     
  2. daxma Hei Long: Unrivalled under the Heavens

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    I have a theory. After ven was frozen his heart past from his own body to sora's.When sora unlocked his heart along kiari's and i think Vens.I think that when sora went into his deep sleep after Castle Oblivion , the reason why sora needed roxas(ven) because after awhile soras body became dependent on vens heart.I think in kingdom hearts 3 sora will unlock ven from inside himself.
     
  3. Roxazthelight Hollow Bastion Committee

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    hey! cool! thanks, so, when Ven was frozen, his heart is inside Sora? and Sora has 2 hearts?
     
  4. sora is a cutie Moogle Assistant

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    my theory

    okay i watched the videos over and over again to come up with the theory that roxas does have a heart.
    in the first game sora gives up his heart and i do think what u said is true about ven, but u have to remember that sora is either terra or ven and that which ever one he is that u r born with a heart of ur own and sora and kairi also share a heart and they r connected.
    sora turned into a heartless and thats when roxas was created, sora's heart was brought back by kairi by her heart......aaaaahhhhhhh heart warming moment n_n
    any way so the captive heart in his heartless was let free and since sora got another heart it was forced into his nobody making him a whole but how so u explain that he faded back into sora???? @_@
     
  5. sora roxas60 Destiny Islands Resident

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    But if Roxas has a heart, he can't fade back into Sora cuz hes a real person. Also hes a nobody of Sora so he doesnt have a heart.
     
  6. daxma Hei Long: Unrivalled under the Heavens

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    I think after ten long years of residing within sora vens heart became a part of him.That is why he just faded into him.He didn't have to fade into sora,the reason sora needed roxas is because retained most of soras memories.As to the thing the person above said , i did a thread that contained many things including something between the links of sora to ven and riku to terra (Check paragraph two and three) and here it is:
    (Please note it can get confusing but if you understand it, it's an amazing theory)
     
  7. Roxazthelight Hollow Bastion Committee

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    hey! thanks a lot! and everyone too! Ven -> Frozen - Ven's Heart -> Sora-> nobody->Roxas ->Ven's Heart, body

    ryte?
     
  8. UzumakiRage Traverse Town Homebody

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    I think Daxma's theory is right but maybe, after the release of KH:Birth by Sleep, we'll get all the answer!
     
  9. Crumpet In your shadow, I can shine!

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    that's a really interesting theory... but how did vens heart travel when he was frozen? just asking
     
  10. daxma Hei Long: Unrivalled under the Heavens

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    i think sora might have come in contact with kingdom hearts without knowing it when he was younger, after Birth By Sleep.I think he might've accessed kingdom hearts through the keyhole in the hiding place.
     
  11. sora is a cutie Moogle Assistant

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    i think ur right with the contact stuff, but remember the keyblade wars happened years before the events of kingdom hearts the game
    sora's supposed to be ven because like i explained in another forum the three good chasers(sora,kairi, and riku) were sent to other worlds and then somehow reunited on destiny islands
    we know that kairi came from radiant gardens(hollow bastion) but what of sora and riku
    so sora is ven and that is how they're linked
     
  12. jojoj13 Hollow Bastion Committee

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    I thought that cutscene happend before KH:BBS.....
    If not then I must be listening to the wrong guy

    Edit: Never mind....
    I just noticed that it was near the end.....
     
  13. Lord Knight Xiron Hollow Bastion Committee

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    I really don't think it has anything to do with Ven. I have two theories on it:

    First off, Axel says "Roxas, you have a heart don't you? Not like me and Namine." Well, Roxas' heart was still alive, and not in a heartless. Axel, and the rest of the Organization either had their heart held captive by a heartless or was already in Kingdom Hearts. Therefore, not alive and whole like Sora. And Namine did not have a true body and heart, being born from both Sora and Kairi's hearts being released from Sora. She did not have one single heart to call her own, and was truly a Nobody, even amongst the other Nobodies. So Roxas' heart was really just the living Sora, and because Sora's heart was active, Roxas was able to sort of feed off of it.

    My second theory is more based off of Roxas' response: "I think the heart is something you can't see. And I'm starting to think that, maybe it's something you can't even feel." I think that, through the connection between Roxas, Axel, and Namine, the three of them started to create a heart. Maybe not each their own heart, but from their memories of emotion and their strong connection, they started to create one central heart that they could all feel from. Thus why they were so attached, and why Roxas and Namine seemed to have a romantic relationship going, and why Axel and Roxas had such a strong bond of friendship, that none of the other Nobodies could feel.
     
  14. Insane_Squrriel Destiny Islands Resident

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    By that logic, Namine would be able to feed off of Kairi's heart, due to Kairi being active as well.
     
  15. Dredica SNES was the best.

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    'Cause he merged with Sora, and Sora has a heart, therfore Roxas has a heart.
     
  16. Princess Celestia Supreme Co-Ruler of Equestria

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    Its either what Daxma said, or that Sora actually is still alive as oppose to the other nobodies.
     
  17. daxma Hei Long: Unrivalled under the Heavens

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    I think this prooves it.....

    Have a look at this.I think it's refering to roxas.It's amazing.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTWbj7iUad8
    It says at 2:40 "and It was real" "And i never knew it" , i think there
    telling us that roxas had a heart and didn't know it before
    the real game starts and used catchy tunes to fool
    people.Complete genius.It also says "I was Ansem" and
    "I hear i was Ansem".Thats wierd?????.I wonder who there refering to
    because i don't think it's refering to roxas.
     
  18. iRonjake Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Wow that video made some sense Lol,well at some parts.imo the part with Roxas probably made the most sense throught the vid with the "I was him" thing.
     
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