Who Do You Want for President?

Discussion in 'Discussion' started by Neku_Sakuraba, Oct 3, 2012.

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Who?

  1. Romney

    5 vote(s)
    17.9%
  2. Obama

    19 vote(s)
    67.9%
  3. Stein

    4 vote(s)
    14.3%
  4. Goode

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Johnson

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. Neku_Sakuraba Gummi Ship Junkie

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  2. Boy Wonder Dark Phoenix in Training

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    The choice is obviously only between former Governor Romney and President Obama. Before, I could understand choosing one of the third party candidates, but at this point, it's pointless. I don't have anything against third party candidates -Hell, I've supported a couple before- but the time to push for them is before an election gets to this point. Bring attention to them, make third party candidates more popular, it has to be paramount to a movement, in my opinion. But at this point, it's too late. There's virtually no chance supporting them will make a difference once the presidential debates start.
     
  3. T3F Chaser

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    I just did the survey and got 85% Obama, but there are a few things that I really disagree with him on. Well anyway, I live in Australia so my opinion is invalid haha
     
  4. Fork These violent delights have violent ends

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    Not a US citizen, but I found it amusing that I got Romney at 6%

    Otherwise my order was:
    Stein, Obama, Johnson, Goode, Romney.
     
  5. Misty gimme kiss

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    You forgot Rocky Anderson in the poll. :]

    At any rate, I am supporting Jill Stein. Even if there isn't a reasonable chance for a third-party candidate to win in today's political climate, you're never going to make a change by either a) supporting the Democrats or Republicans or b) acting indifferent to the whole thing, saying "well I'll never be able to change anything." These days, people are awfully fed up with our two-party system. Putting a vote in for a third-party probably won't send you towards a win, but it gives that party a percentage of the vote; each election year you vote third-party, spread the word about their candidates, you are taking charge of America's future.

    Stein's Green New Deal sounds exactly like what we need for this country and she seems just as aware as the general American public that we have a lot of people in government who are no longer serving the people but the corporations.

    If you aren't sure what candidates you should look into:
    http://www.isidewith.com/
     
  6. MadDoctorMaddie I'm a doctor, not a custom title!

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    I actually got a higher score on Stein than Obama, but I'll still be voting for him in November. Somebody pointed out that voting for an independent candidate at this point is basically giving half a vote to Romney, and I want to keep him, and especially Ryan, out of the White House.

    Of course, being an Illinois voter my vote doesn't really matter, it's pretty unlikely for anyone but Obama to win here... But better safe than sorry.
     
  7. Boy Wonder Dark Phoenix in Training

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    Can you elaborate on this? Is there some reason that third parties are automatically better than these two that, unless you vote third party, nothing's going to change?[DOUBLEPOST=1349320583][/DOUBLEPOST]Also, I didn't click the link earlier because I already know who I'm voting for. Didn't realize it was a quiz or whatever until I saw other people's posts lol. My results were pretty much what I expected them to be, order-wise.
    87% Obama
    77% Stein
    48% Johnson
    31% Romney
    30% Goode.
     
  8. Misty gimme kiss

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    I just mean, a lot of people whine about picking "the lesser of two evils" and yet they continue to support them. In order to enact change, we're going to have to go out on a limb sometimes. Of course every candidate should be considered individually, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who finds the Democrats not liberal enough.
     
  9. Boy Wonder Dark Phoenix in Training

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    Oh, you're definitely not the only one. I was hoping for several other people to take the Democratic nomination and that Obama would not run for reelection. But the fact is that sometimes, you do have to pick the lesser evil. Like I said before, I do support third party candidates, but at a certain point in the election, they become too irrelevant. You need something akin to a movement to bring them to the public attention, but with the election a month away, there is no way that we can accomplish that. They're not even getting invited to the debates. I would gladly support Stein any day of the year, but with today's political climate, there's no way she has a snowball's chance of winning at this point. I do agree that today's political climate is bad because of that and it's something we need to change, definitely. But a vote for her now is similar to not voting. It won't make a difference. Of course, that's not counting the possibility that she gets enough support that even if she doesn't win, it sparks the movement I mentioned. However, when it's obvious that either Obama or Romney will win and virtually impossible for Stein or anyone else to, I personally see a vote for Stein as relevant as not voting at all.
    I don't see Obama as the "lesser of two evils," he's genuinely the better candidate (though the lesser of two evils is, by definition, the better the candidate), but if someone does see Obama and Romney as "two evils," then I would hope that they vote for the lesser one.

    Regardless, my point is that voting Democrat or Republican =/= not making a change. The two parties are fundamentally different and whichever one is in power will make fundamentally different choices which will result in change (assuming that if Obama gets reelected, he gets a bluer Congress).
     
  10. Menos Grande Kingdom Keeper

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    It's kinda funny for me seeing your elections (I am from Brazil), they atack the "Obamacare" as it were the epitome of socialism/comunism when it is just the bare minimal that a governement should do. They are just asking for people to enter health cares so they can treat the ones that can't afford this care.
    It's strange for me that live in a so called third world country even though EVERYONE in Brazil (all us 190.755.799 people) have free health care from the govern, we also get some free drugs expecialy the ones that you use for all your life (Heart, HIV, diabetes, etc..).

    I don't even know why do you pay your taxes if your govern thinks that "They don't have to take care of you, and if you fail at some point is all your fault".
    Seriously! You got to understand that for someone to be rich another has to be poor, people that are whithout jobs are not like this because they want, our system makes them this way, so If we suport this system, and pay for it with taxes we would expect that the govern would do the bare minimal..
    God forbid if someone in your family get cancer or someother dissease serious like that.. to afford all the medical bills would probably made most of the people go broke in no time.
     
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    To be perfectly honest, I don't want either Obama or Romney for president, and the third party candidates just don't have enough good about them to get my support either. If I'm going to vote for a person, I want to vote for someone who will be a good president, not someone who is less bad than the other guy. I'll stick to just voting on laws, amendments, and other things that won't affiliate me with a specific person.
     
  12. venster You never heard of me, but I pop in time to time

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    It's all about Gary Johnson. :D

     
  13. Beau Hollow Bastion Committee

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    I got...
    1. Obama
    2. Stein
    3. Johnson
    4. Goode
    5. Romney

    However, I'm only fourteen and can't vote. Plus, I honestly don't give a damn right now.
     
  14. Mysty Unknown

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    Gasp! Ron Paul is not on the list so I cannot take part in this silly game... But seriously now. I am going Romney do to the failures of the current executive leader. I could rant about it but it might get me banned. So lets see what my results say shall we...

    76% Romney
    75% Goode
    66% Johnson
    38% Stein
    31% Obama (cheers and does a little dance for him being last)

    I am satisfied with these results... though Ron Paul not on there saddens me... cheating Republicans changing the rules at the last minute...
    Edit... Myst is very disappointed in all the Obama supporters. VERY DISAPPOINTING!
     
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    1. Goode (65%)
    2. Obama (64%)
    2.Romney (64%)
    4. Johnson (54%)
    5. Stein (45%)
     
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    Stein: 79%
    Obama: 74%
    Johnson: 54%
    Romney: 37%
    Goode: 29%

    Still votin' for Obama.
     
  17. Anixe Hollow Bastion Committee

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    It's literally gonna be me and a coin toss once I get to the voting booths. I understand somewhat of both of the main candidates' policies and regulations, but I'm just not having that innate feeling of which one is better.

    It'll be my first time voting, so I hope it is worth it and by then, I hope to also finally choose which one to go for. Probably by the time the next election comes around, I will get a better grip on these politics and how to choose carefully based on this experience.
     
  18. Jayn

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    76% Obama.
    75% Stein.
    66% Anderson.
    37% Romney.

    (Misty's quiz)

    Sounds about right to me. To be honest, I get the whole 'lesser of two evils' thing (even though I don't see Obama as that bad, tbh) but...Well, I honestly feel like if voting for one person (third party) is essentially equal to voting for no one, then I'd rather vote for one of the two major candidates and feel like I'm making a difference of some sort.

    In other words, I agree with pretty much everything in Bueno's post.

     
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    I forgot my results for the survey Misty posted. I remember getting a higher score with Obama and Romney in that one than Bueno. Something like 89% and 33%.

    Took the other survey in the first post and...

    98% Obama
    68% Unimportant person 1
    42% Unimportant person 2
    36% Unimportant person 3
    31% Romney

    Suck it Romney. He won't fund Stem Cell research, doesn't support gay marriage, supports having more pollution(literally), and is against abortion. A lot of other things to list but this guy isn't good for the US. >>

    I'm surprised there's barely any reasons listed by people in this thread. There is no "lesser of two evils" here. There is simply Obama, three other people nobody should be caring about at this point, and Romney. Unless I felt like pushing progress back a decade or two, I'm going with Obama. Too bad my vote won't make a difference. I live in Texas. >>
     
  20. Hayabusa Venomous

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    Stein - 100%
    Obama - 77%
    Johnson - 72%
    Goode - 52%
    Romney - 15%

    I'm ok with these results. I totally agree though, that America's political field is just ridiculous at the current state. It's always just Republican or Democrat, and that really needs to change. First thing you gotta do, of course, is actually educate people about all the options, which sadly doesn't happen. The majority of people will only recognize Obama and Romney for candidates, so there's no chance for anyone else so late in the race. I disagree with quite a few things Obama's done, but I'd much rather have him in office than Romney. Of course, best option would be Stein, but a party outside Democratic or Republican won't win until people actually know about them.