Birth by Sleep Vanitas/Ven/Roxas/Sora

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  1. roxas207 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    So i saw another thread saying that vanitas is part of ven & that ven's heart went into Roxas which made him feel and something i don't know what had to do with Sora in it. Can something please explain to me what is happening with this...-Junk?I wanna set things straight for myself. -_-"
     
  2. La Sofa ('_')-l3 No worries

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    I'm not completely sure but
    I read that somehow Ven's heart and Sora's heart are mixed. And with Ven's dark side Vanitas, Ven's Sora side showed more with it which is why it took the form of Sora. Same with Roxas.
     
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    Wrong section.
    I'll answer anyway.
    I'm not completely sure on how right I am on this so don't quote me
    When Ven first awakened, his Pillar or whatever it's called was incomplete (I think it means his heart was incomplete? Not sure) so his heart connected with a young Sora's and the pillar was complete. Then he became an apprentice to Master Xehanort who was trying to make the X Blade but needed a heart of pure light and pure darkness so he summoned Neoshadow Heartless to ambush Ven. He then took out all the darkness from Ven's heart and Vanitas was born from it. Later on, Vanitas was shown to look like KH2 Sora but with black hair and gold eyes. He possessed Ven and made the X Blade (I think it was incomplete) In the end, Ven and Vanitas had a final showdown inside Ven's heart. I'm pretty sure Ven defeated Vanitas, but for some reason it made his heart abandon his body? Or something of the sort.
    His heart then took refuge in young Sora's heart. Because of this, Sora's Nobody was born with Ven's appearance and Sora grew up looking like Vanitas.
    I haven't played BBS or seen all the scenes, but that's what I've gathered.
     
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  5. roxas207 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    thanx. im starting to get the pic, but why did vanitas look like sora? creepy...o.O
     
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    You need to use spoiler tags. The game isn't out in America yet; some people are trying to keep from knowing all this.

    Anyway,
    one reason I can think of for Vanitas looking like Sora is that the part of Sora's heart that completed Ventus's heart contained most of the darkness. That might explain why Sora had very little to no darkness inside his heart at the time of the Kingdom Hearts finale. That's definitely a stretch though, and it's not really important enough to make wild guesses about. Suffice to say, the two are similar, and I'd wager Vanitas just picked a form and took it.
     
  7. jet588 Traverse Town Homebody

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    Aren't the four contrasting on one another?

    Think for a second, Ven is good, Vanitas is "heartless like".

    Now in contrast, Sora is good, and Roxas is dark.

    I believe that Vanitas was a remdition to give Sora a bit of darkness in order to move freely about dark areas without becoming corrupt.

    On the opposite side of the twilight, Roxas and Ven both did the same thing for Sora, gave their souls to him to forge a complete heart for him. This might explain why Ven's "pillar" was incomplete, because HE was incomplete. Ven is the true keyblade master that Sora is, which is why Sora got the keyblade in KH1 instead of Riku, because it sensed Ven's heart and knew that his soul burned within Sora's.

    I'm not sure if there're any holes (as per usual I say in my speeches), but feel free to read and comment on this theory.
     
  8. AxelRikkuconnection Twilight Town Denizen

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    I HAVE PLAYED THE GAME.
    So heres ur answers

    Van/Ven...... same heart, MX extracted darkness from vens heart which made ven pure light and van pure darkness.. when this happens and they collide again the X-blade is formed...deadly weapon in keyblade wars and such....too lazy to go into great detail

    Ven/Sora..... at end of bbs ven is asleep because his heart is not recovered from battle with van... sora ends up talking to vens heart. ven asks to fuse with his and does so.

    Sora/Roxas..... dunno too much on this. roxas seems to be soras nobody who took the form of ventus but it seems taht if sora's heart was taken and a nobody was formed, what happend to ventus' heart? maybe ventus' heart was released when sora was a heartless. TBH i don't think any of that is true but its a thought. I think that roxas is just a nobody of sora maybe with emotion of ven.

    KH3 will connect everything i hope..... like ven waking up, aqua finding her way out of darkness, terra/MX (???? i dunno im stuck on wat happens with him. it seems as tho he dies... but fm2 is leading to something more with him), sora

    KH3 is KH recconnect at least thats wats hinted.... im thinking its the finale of the series. would be a great one.
     
  9. jet588 Traverse Town Homebody

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    It's the end of the series, because after Sora and them free everyone from darkness there's nothing to do but head to the TT clock tower and eat ice cream, which will probably be the ending.

    Sora sitting there with Riku and Kiari, all ejoying ice cream, then Roxas and Namine appear and are sitting in the "ghostly" forms as well, enjoying ice cream, don't ask me how they can hold it. XD