Three Oklahoma Teens Charged in Shooting of Australian Baseball Player

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  1. Amaury Chaser

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    Get after me all you guys want, but I hope they don't get life in prison. I'm sorry, I don't mind if someone in their 40s gets life in prison because they've already established a life for themselves, but I'm just not for young people getting life in prison, especially those in their teenage years.


     
  2. Glen Returned from the dead

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    Wow, my sympathies for the family of Chris Lane, that would be a terrible thing to happen. I'll have to disagree with you on them not getting life prison. I don't believe that there's ever a justifiable reason for someone being killed that hasn't done anybody any harm, but these kids decided to kill someone because they were bored? I hope they get life imprisonment .
     
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    And you, of course, have a right to your opinion. :)

    Just to clarify, I never said that what they did was justifiable; in fact, I think it was completely despicable. However, personally, I'm just not for life imprisonment for people of ages 30 and below.
     
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    My sympathies to the family. I also believe they deserve life imprisonment, they didn't even have a reason to kill, I wouldn't justify it even if they did but I would understand if it was revenge or something, but boredom? In a case like this age is irrelevant. If they can shoot someone out of boredom what about when they get angry?
     
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    While it's true that people do have more chances for stuff when they're under 30, when you end up going around just shooting people for the fun of it, and wanting to see someone die, and I can't sympathize at all for these kids. Now, I'm not going to go straight on saying they're the ones that did it, because as far as we know, they had a black car, we at the scene, had guns in their house, and wanted to see someone die, but in no way does that mean they did it. I'm more for getting a full fact case instead of lining up stuff that seems right and say "They're the culprits", but that's just the way they work. When you say "...found evidence that made us believe", I can't really follow that kind of logic. At that point, you might be putting the wrong people in jail. Now the fact that they had guns in their house and were uncooperative with the police is another story, so that most likely wouldn't get them on anyone's good side.
    The fact that anyone would just drive right behind the guy and shoot him in the back without a second thought is another thing altogether, in my opinion at least. The guy didn't even know they were there, and he had a great career ahead of him. It's just a tragic thing.
     
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    I heard Australia's refusing to bring a lot of people to the U.S. now, or are refusing American citizens, one of the two and not totally sure.

    I can't blame them, I'd be angry too on what happened. I do believe life in prison is for the best, though it's unfortunate. I don't want the kids to be set as an example and warning. At the same time, I don't want this happen again. And sadly, I can see it happening again.
     
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    Well it's nice to see you have that innocence left in you, Amaury.

    As for me, life imprisonment is must. If they did this because they were 'bored' then they're sick and twisted individuals who don't even deserve to see the light of day. I think the deepest, darkest hole they can find should be where these three should reside. I think being a 'kid' gets thrown out the window when you murder someone in cold blood. If you want my honest opinion, imprisonment isn't good enough. I don't think letting them live out the rest of their lives is quite fair after taking away someone elses. Someone who, by the way, was only twenty two and had a full life ahead of him.

    I suppose, to be fair, they all had a part in it and should share the punishment equally. Life imprisonment would do. However, fair goes out the window when you take another persons life. When you make the decision to pull that trigger, when you watch as the final breath is exhaled from their lungs, when you drive away without a care in the world I believe that fair no longer comes into play.

    Life imprisonment or execution, take your pick.
     
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    From what Aqua said, it's not fully factual yet if they did it or not. Also, if only one did the shooting and the others just watched, don't you think that one you should get a harsher punishment? For example, the shooter gets ten years in prison while the others get five years.

    Anyway, out of only those choices, I'd of course pick life imprisonment. I'm sorry, but if I even think life in prison is too much, then there's no way I'd even agree with death.
     
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    Well, the thing is that even if you didn't do the shooting, having some kind of part in it places you in as much trouble as the other guy who actually did it. It's basically saying "Yeah, someone robbed a bank while I stood outside watching for people. But I didn't have much of a part to play in it." Even though you officially didn't do anything, you still had some part to play, but I'm still wishing they could say what they found as evidence. It reminds me of a movie I saw that was a true story about some guy who got put in jail for being wrongly accuses of a murder because at the time they couldn't do DNA testing, so since they could only get blood types, they blamed the guy because he had the same blood type as the blood that was left at the scene. While it seems like they might do it, I would rather have a bit more of hard evidence....I've been watching Bones a little too much.

    Another example that might work would be that incident that happened a while back with the girl who was rapped by boys and then brought to multiple parties and rapped again. One of the boys only recorded the event, but it was still enough to get him time in jail because he had some part to play in what had happened.
     
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    Basically everything that Vivid said. It's called being an accessory. All three, if found guilty, she be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Whether that be execution or life imprisonment is up to the justice system.

    EDIT: That's fine, we're all entitled to our opinions. As I said, I personally thought execution may be suitable but I'd also be okay with life imprisonment.
     
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    I feel like they should be sentenced to life in prison if found guilty and I in no way feel any remorse for these people but I do see where Amaury is coming from and think they should at least get a chance at parole after 10 to 20 years because they are so young and still have so much of their life ahead of them.
     
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    There's something called: "The Good Sumaritan Law" which basically means if you witness a crime and don't do anything to stop it and/or don't report it to the police, you're considered as guilty as the party who did it. It's in a few states, I don't know if it's where the kids are, but I think it's a good example to set to throw some heavy penalty on them for not doing anything and witnessing it IF they didn't do the murder.

    As for the being bored, I sadly see it a lot now. Kids, (especially rich ones, not being judgmental, but it seems a tendency.) Who are bored think mostly: "Well, if I do this, I can have daddy bail me out." There was a kid who tortured and slaughtered 20 family cats in two weeks at Miami. He came from a well-off family who were dentists who were going through a divorce, he talked, ON TAPE, about how much he enjoyed killing those cats and the media attention. He said: "Well, my parents are going through a divorce, that's why I did this." That's inexcusable to do what he did, it's inexcusable to kill someone because you're bored. They need to be in jail, if you are killing animals and people at a young age, most likely it's going to carry on for your whole life.