Think Unhappy Thoughts

So is it possible to think deep serious thoughts about life, its meaning and the various facets of reality without depressing yourself or at the very least feeling sort of sad or hopeless? If I think about anything rationally it includes me and you as worm food and no legacy for us to be remembered by; a veritable erasure of any existence we may have had in life, proof that we did not exist. There is more but that's probably the most prominent thing. So in the end I just think my thoughts discard them as irrelevant to my life as things currently are and live as I please. But I still can't help thinking, there must be a way that reasonable thinking about life, the universe, and everything is not depressing. I may be speaking only for myself but I'd like to see myself proven wrong.

 

Think more about how to create a legacy, how to get yourself into history.
Not how you'll be a part of the dwindling **** called the modern population.
Happy thoughts. How to be better. How to fulfill happiness.​

 

That really isn't what I was talking about at all. If you think logically and reasonably about your situation then the odds are against you leaving any impression on history. Also I am quite happy and whether or not I am happy or not is not the question, it is whether or not I can cause myself to be this way by thinking deep thoughts, not superficial wishful ones.

 

Well...One simple action done can create ripples. It's not about being important to history, but creating bonds that remain...even when all is gone..your life would have been yours, it's about living happy and making others happy. Being a leaf blown in the wind, that's what we all are....there's not much we can change, but what we can, we do.

I think this one is a bit corny, but it serves as an answer, no?

 

Well, I have tried to be more positive about subjects like that. The only way I can salvage any happiness is to read classic literature like Shakespeare. But I don't like him much, so I read Murakami and Kant (Murakami because he's amazing, and Kant because I don't know what any of that **** means anyway).

Having fun with the subject of reality is key. Not necessarily being cynical (though it isn't bad, just don't over do it), though.

Plus, it isn't really about popularity. I wish people would stop thinking about philosophical and profound things without the concept of "being well known" lodged in their heads. Just thinking and reading about things for the sake of doing it is good, too.

 

Whenever those thoughts come to me, I just think that if I add just one piece of information to the body of human knowledge, I am in history, even if no one knows my name. I'm not vain (not that you are, either). I don't need to be in every history book for the next millennium. I just want to do something that contributes to the betterment of humanity. And making a hefty bit of cash as a reward wouldn't hurt either :lolface:

I don't know if any of that made sense. It's getting late, after a hard day's work.

 

If you or I look at it a bit more rationally even if you are remembered it means nothing because you are still dead and gone, the thing people remember is a collection of what some people thought you were not what you know yourself to be. So it doesn't matter if you are well known to history; whether there is proof you existed. Profundity is in that sense purposeless, yet people continue on doing it. Since good is also subjective there is no concrete reason to think of these things at all. Aren't people intimidated by lacking purpose in doing anything?

 

of course it is.I could probably be more cheery about what think but melancholy is actually a cussion.if you think about it, if you expect the worst than things can only be better than you thought.

 

Not really.

Nothing is eternal, that's just the way it is. Which is really why life has any value.

If life is really so pointless we might all might as well just kill ourselves now. Nothing we do will ever matter anyway, right?

I like living, therefore, I live. Good enough for me.

 

I agree. And if there is no reason to do it at all, why not do it? There isn't a reason not to, after all, right?

People might be intimidated for that reason. It's all about perspective. Having the ability to create is often for some purpose; no matter what it is, it will have some intrinsic value, whether it exists to anyone else or not. The same goes for learning and performing other things. Why do you go to school, for example? Probably because you have to. Maybe you want to learn? I know this is a broad example but you know what I mean, I'm sure. The purpose might not really exist, but you make a reason and therefore it has purpose and will have intrinsic value after the exertion of energy for that particular task or thing.

 

I was to say the same thing. And, yes people feel bad by lacking purpose, but in truth it's pointless to think of it, as you said. Or death would become our inminent option, and that's a big no, no.

 

Personally I think that just because there is no reason doesn't mean that I have to stop. But I also feel that I don't need to come up with a reason not to to counter the lack of a reason. To do something for no reason at all is not wrong, to create a reason can be fine too but if anyone can just decide that they will proceed to exist for a certain reason because there is no other reason, then what if someone challenges that? Isn't this validation of the self the lead-in to all conflict? People think that they are right and by that merit that others are wrong and when beliefs conflict ore conflict follows. To have conviction in your own existence and reason for existing and doing whatever it is you want to do may lead to the invalidation of another's, does that seem right to you?