Birth by Sleep Theory

Discussion in 'Kingdom Hearts HD II.5 ReMIX' started by NeoCloudstrife, Aug 3, 2008.

  1. NeoCloudstrife Decisive Being

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    well, i first came across this theory and it immediately struck me as possible. i added extra bits to link it in with the timeline & cutscenes we've seen.

    ANYWAY:
    There's a war going on for no particular reason, between the keybladers (possibly some kind of gigantic religion) and the other team we dont know about. There is a squadron-type-thing on the keybladers side comprising of terra, aqua, ven and xehanort , when something happens and ven starts to dissapear/fade away or whatever. xehanort promises that with his superior skills he will obtain by doing something with kingdom hearts, that he will help ven stop dissapearing/fading. he figures out that by putting his heart into someone that he will still exist inside them. so terra goes out to look for young people to be the ven-containment specimen (cue the scene where terra watches riku and sora fight.) with riku obviously stronger, he "chooses" riku to be the capsule (possibly why apparently riku was supposed to get the keyblade) and xehanort agrees, then goes to get his uuber-powers from kh. things go wrong and xehanort gets pwned by kh and turns evil and crap and starts showing up everywhere trying to kill terra, ven and aqua or something (possibly why the unbirths exist.) to stop the evilness, terra aqua and ven decide to go get the princesses of heart.
    halfway through this process, xehanort remembers that he was supposed to help ven keep alive, so he finds him and pays him a little visit. ven, who is forgetting everything, cannot remember xehanort when he meets him (cue scene from the trailer) ven fends off xehanort, and, ven being unable to continue, returns to meet terra, who has just finished off a large unbirth. funnily enough, aqua is also coming to meet terra, and they meet up at the crossroads (cue kh2 secret ending and then FM+ secret ending.) xehanort kills aqua and captures ven using his kh powers, and, later, just to piss terra off, xehanort puts vens heart in sora instead of riku. then a day or so later, terra and xehanort meet up at the end of terras story,(cue scene from trailer) and final battle ensues. terra dies. (thats why terras spirit lingers
    there (FM+ battle)) this is why ven looks exactly like roxas, since they are actually the same person.



    what do y'all think?
     
  2. RoxaSora2010 Nulla è reale. Tutto è lecito.

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    Do you mean Ven looks like Roxas? However, it's a fantastic theory for me and it can be :)
    Go to post it into the "Kingdomology Family"
     
  3. daxma Hei Long: Unrivalled under the Heavens

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    RoxaSora that is for the members of our group remember...If you feel he has promise invite him into the group.
     
  4. Arch Mana Knight

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    Good theory Cloud...Although I doubt Aqua will die. Terra has the highest chance of dying though. Although it would be a little...cliche if Terra died. *cough*Zack*cough* It's almost too obvious that he'll die...
     
  5. NeoCloudstrife Decisive Being

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    well, they arent alive in kh2, otherwise they'd be after roxas/sora... so i'd assume they're dead, or trapped in a dimension or something xDDD
     
  6. RoxasXIIIX Traverse Town Homebody

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    Yes, i know i commented on msn, but still, really nice theory.

    Just one thing, how does it play into the room of sleep? Makes me think Aqua isn't dead, but is like, just sleeping. :P
     
  7. Ixenin Destiny Islands Resident

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    That actually makes a lot more sense than 99% of the other theories I've read. I don't quite agree with all of it, but at least you didn't go "O hay Terra's eyes turn orange he must b Xenahort!!!"
     
  8. P Banned

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    A problem though.

    You don't bring up the "Erase me" scene, nor did you bring in the Dark Soldier, or Mickey.
     
  9. Explode Who?!

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    A really good theory, but you made a lot of assumptions, even more than most theories. It is still a very nice interpretation though! ^^
     
  10. Chevalier Crystal Princess

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    since i dont want to waste space with my lesser theories let me just post something here

    my version of your theory:

    xehanort is a (keyblade) master.

    and he wants terra to become the next master(this is actually from a cutscene)

    and aqua and ven are terra's friends (duh), and they are all apprentices(they say their teacher will debut on BBS)

    so xehanort became master but a corrupt one.

    he started experimenting ect.

    and came to the conclusion that the princesses of the heart were required to obtain KH.

    so he goes all evil, and TVA's master, yen sid, or mickey warn them about xehanorts plans.

    meanwhile, ven has lost something...something vital to his existance.

    and xehanort wants terra to be evil and fall to darkness.

    wich he tries to resist.

    as the group keeps going through worlds to search for princesses in hopes of finding xehanort ,and stopping his evil plans.

    after that a couple of things happen.

    ven getting brainwashed by maleficent, getting persuated by xehanort ,ect.

    after that terra decides to confront xehanort alone. but Aqua and Ven go with him(secret ending)

    and they go to face him, but ven gets frozen.

    terra goes all yellow eyed.

    and their fate at the end, i have nothing to say.

    except maybe.

    A) terra beats xehanort , but in the midst of the final clash looses his memories....and becomes Diz aprentice.

    B) Aqua tries to save Ven...but the only way is to.....fuse him with sora.....or something.

    C) Aqua is somehow dead but remains a lingering spirit, in the room of sleep.


    but of course, your theory makes much sense...im just tired and adding something's that are random.
     
  11. What? 『 music is freedom 』

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    It seems to be well thought out, but Terra does not look exactly like Roxas.
     
  12. NeoCloudstrife Decisive Being

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    oh, lol, well, you know what i meant.... *edits*

    well i think the dark soldier is something spawned from kingdom hearts, possibly where the "endless" come in? i dunno?
    and mickey i suppose is from another squadron of the keybladers, possibly led by yen sid.

    however i dont quite recall the "erase me" scene properly. from what i remember, it MIGHT be ven asking terra to let him fade away, because he's uuberly depressed or something...
     
  13. What? 『 music is freedom 』

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    I do not think Yen Sid was ever a keyblade wielder. The "Erase Me" Scene was Ven standing on a beach in I presume, Destiny Islands, and looking at the waves saying something before saying "Erase Me".
     
  14. NeoCloudstrife Decisive Being

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    lol same i dont think yen sid weilded a keyblade, but he acts suspiciously in kh2...i think he's a major plotline thing. he's possibly an "endless"

    c'mon these endless have to come in somewhere, right?