The Realm of Darkness.

IS it possible that Destiny Islands are the Realm of Darkness? I mean ive been wondering it ever since i kinda looked into it at the end of KH2. It makes sence to me now that the trailer for kh3 is out, Where Sora finds master eraqus' keyblade and Aqua is the last one who had it. and he finds it on Destiny Islands. Its got the same setup, Water, what looks like sand, and the outcast feeling of being the only one there. Ands its also the only place where we see Ansem the Wise twice, once in the realm of darkness & he was on destiny islands with riku at the end of DDD. Idk i just think that maybe somehow Destiny Islands is the Realm of Darkness. What do you guys think? Is it a good observation? or is it just me thinking to much into it?

 

Haha, I think you might be thinking too much into it. I think Aqua just made her way to Destiny Islands or something and just ... left behind her Keyblade I guess. xD

 

When it comes to the KH3 trailer there are a few things to remember
1. It's just a concept trailer. Remember when there was a twlight thorn in the KH3D trailer? It's not 100% going to be a thing
2. It's still in development. Likely still in early development.

If it was in the Realm of Darkness it would probably be noticeable like with the one castle Aqua saw.

 

I think there's a far more reasonable argument to be made that Destiny Islands is the coastline bordering the Realm of Light and In Between--sort of the Light version of the Dark Margin that Riku & Sora ended up on at the end of Kingdom Hearts II. Aqua may have found a way to send items (like Eraqus's Keyblade) between the Realms.

 

It's kinda impossible for DI to be on the Realm of Darkness, like Misty said, they're borders between realms at best. If DI was on the Realm of Darkness there wouldn't be anyone living there.
Also, Ansem only appeared there on the end of DDD because of Sora, that's how his "heart" looks, or whatever. And there are actually two Dark Margins. I think Nomura said it to handwave the fact Aqua wasn't nearby when Sora and Riku were there, so maybe only that one from KH2 is on the border.

 

That'd be an interesting concept, but at the same time, wouldn't the keyblade just go back to her? I mean, she did give her keyblade to terra when she saved him, but that was her actually giving it to him. If she just threw it to another world, how could it just stay out in the open? I know it's just a trailer that we just saw, but maybe it was them just messing around showing off the new graphics. But it might be that Aqua could appear on Destiny Islands, because we've seen them all meet up there, except kairi, since she was in Hollow Bastion first, so there's gotta be something to do with the Islands, otherwise I doubt they would name it Destiny Islands. Heck, if they're thinking it, it might even be the place for the final battle, and Kingdom Hearts shows up there.

 

All very interesting ideas/concepts. I guess i had forgotten about the thorn in the trailer for DDD and didnt think much of it. but yeah your probably right that its not the realm of darkness, but at the same time i cant help but think that i COULD be. Idk i guess we will see. and if it does end up being like that, you can guarantee ill be flaunting around this forum for awhile XD :P

 

The Keyblade wouldn't go to Aqua instantly, but It's probably just a concept vid like you said, no need to think too hard on it for now.

 

Where Riku & Sora were (the Dark Margin) was the coast of In Between, looking out to the Realm of Darkness. Aqua is on the coastline of the Realm of Darkness, looking out to In Between. I think, at least. This would explain why Riku and Sora did not see Aqua or Ansem the Wise there.

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The fact that Sora and Riku stepped into the ocean and ended up on the Realm of Light was messed up my head, so I just went to check the interviews to see what it says about those, it's exactly as you said, thanks.

 

Yeah, it's definitely confusing--they essentially stepped towards the Realm of Darkness, into the Door to Light, which transported them back to the Realm of Light. It follows with the series adage that there's light even in the deepest darkness; ergo, the Door to Light was able to appear in the waters of In Between and the Realm of Darkness.

 

I wouldn't think so but there could be a possibility I mean this is Kingdom Hearts were talking about.
Although in kh1 an illusion version of destiny Islands was shown in the end of the world but somehow the islands must have some connection to it. Haven't any one here wonder what's beyond that door? Maybe it could be a path to a realm.. hmmm....actually you do have a point...

 

Hmm, if it was to appear in the waters of In Between and the Realm of Darkness, do you think that when it appeared at the end of KH2, that maybe Aqua could have seen it as well and walked through it and ended up on Destiny Islands as well and has just been derping around for a while, not coming into contact with Sora, Riku or Kairi?

I think you might have accidentally figured something out, Misty. Lmao

 

It's certainly a possibility. It would call Birth by Sleep's secret ending into question, of course, but we don't know about the flow of time in the Realm of Darkness. It also could be an escape path for Aqua (the Door to Light). However, why the Door to Light appeared to Sora and Riku, whether they have some kind of control over it, why it took them to Destiny Islands, etc. I think it's more likely that Mickey will have a hand in Aqua's rescue, because he has the Kingdom Key D, which belongs to the Realm of Darkness.

 

That actually made it all click for me, thanks! But was it confirmed that they were looking out towards the Realm of Darkness? Wouldn't it make more sense they were facing the Realm of Light if Destiny Islands is on the other side of the water? That would have been how the message floated right to them from where Kairi sent it off in the Realm of Light.

It makes sense that they would end up in the In Between though. If you think about it, the entirety of The World and Never Was could have been made in the In Between, which is why it took a dark portal to get to it. However, when Ansem the Wise's laser thing freed the captured hearts the city fell apart and the in between fell back to it's natural state, in which, after taking care of Xemnas, Riku and Sora stumbled all the way to the Dark Margin.

It also establishes the possibility as to how in the heck Kairi ended up at Kingdom Hearts at the end of KH1. If Destiny Islands is the world closest to the Realm of Darkness, then it would make sense that Kairi could end up at the Door to the Dark Realm with Sora just just before the reformation of Destiny Islands pulled her back into the Realm of Light.

In that sense, I really want to know exactly where in that spectrum is what is now Castle Oblivion and The Crossroads. Exactly where on this spectrum do they lie? When Sora, Donald, and Goofy didn't take the high road to the Realm of Light with Kairi, and they didn't end up stuck behind the Door with Riku and Mickey, they popped up in the crossroads before finding their way to Castle Oblivion. Eraqus told Aqua that the Land of Departure was balanced in light and darkness. Could they also be in the 'In Between'?

 

It's not exactly a ocean that connects the realms.
There's a world on the Dark Realm whose tip is on the in-between realm, that's where they ended up. The only way to get to the Light Realm from there is through that door, which was probably how the message found it's way to Sora.

And yeah, it's confirmed that the side they were looking out to is in the Realm of Darkness.

That door wasn't in the dark realm was it? I mean, the other side, where Riku and Mickey were was, but they were all still in the light realm in the other side.
Either way, Kairi ended up on DI because she was there when it was destroyed, and with worlds in-between like Traverse Town and Twilight Town existing, it doesn't make a lot of sense to say DI is the closest to the Realm of Darkness.

Yeah, Castle Oblivion/LoD is a in-between world.

 

So, does it stand to reason that each realm has it's own worlds like the Realm of Light does? The only known worlds in the Dark Realm being the Dark Margins, one of which is in Darkness looking out to in between, the other half in the In Between looking out to Darkness? While Castle Oblivion/LoD, The Crossroads, and Traverse Town are worlds located in the In Between, and of course all the Disney worlds and DI are in the Realm of Light?

I was referencing as if that door was in the In Between. Beyond the door was the Realm of Darkness, yet Sora and the others would have had to end up back on DI with Kairi to go straight back to the Realm of Light. That way it only makes sense that they wake up at the Crossroads. But then again, it does make sense logically that they were still in the Realm of Light, just in the darkness created by all the worlds that were lost to it, and that door just led directly to the Realm of Darkness.

Yeah, Kairi ended up on DI because she was there when it was destroyed, but I'm talking about how she ended up at Kingdom Hearts to call out to Sora just before DI began reforming. But if that 'place' was literally what was left of the destroyed worlds, then it also makes sense that she just showed up there a few seconds early, just long enough to call out to Sora. And I suppose that with Sora, Donald, and Goofy, not being ported back to any world in particular, rather than being lost in the Darkness they had to go somewhere. So they just popped out at the Crossroads. If you wanted to read really deep into it, you could say that maybe Ventus's heart subconsciously led Sora there and Donald and Goofy just tagged along, but that'd be a big assumption to make.

Also, I won't doubt if you know otherwise, because I haven't kept up with the interviews or anything to know hard facts from fan theory (which is pretty much just what I consist of, if you can't tell >_>) but has Twilight Town been confirmed an In Between world? I mean, looking back, it doesn't have any really special properties like Traverse Down does. It's just the town that Roxas grew emotionally attached to because it was the first one he visited in 385/2 Days and coincidentally the one Ansem the Wise chose to make a digital copy of. I mean, besides when it's blocked in KH2, we can easily go back and forth from it in the Realm of Light, it has many permanent denizens, and it doesn't go anywhere. Now, I wouldn't be surprised at all if the 'digital copy' was in the In Between, that's a whole different story.

 

Yeah, the Dark Realm has it's own worlds, supossedly. The Dark Margins are actually just one world.
I found a pic that ilustrates it better(Credits to whoever made it):


You're right about everything else.
Though the Crossroads might be part of LoD.

Ventus' heart was on Roxas and still sleeping, so I doubt.

Like you said, they probably popped up there because there was nowhere else to go.
It makes sense for Goofy and Donald, Disney Castle never disappeared, but I don't know how to explain Sora.

Yeah, Twilight Town is confirmed to be in-between. And it does have a special property, since it's in the in-between realm, lots of nobodies pop into existence there.
And DiZ probably used it because the abandoned mansion was a good place to hide.

It's not really odd how they can go in and out of there easily, you could do the same to Traverse Town and Land of Departure.
And there's really no restrictions to people living in those places, even though it's kinda odd how they manage to with all the heartless and nobodies running around.

 

Destiny Islands is a World of Light for sure. The facts that you've stated is purely a coincidence. The Realm of Darkness, realm of In-Between and the Realm of Light are connected to each other. Just think of Destiny Islands as the border from the Realm of Light to the Realm of In-Between and vice versa. Like the Dark Margin is the border from The Realm of In-Between to the Realm of Darkness.

 

I just figured it was because unlike most other beings, he had the ability (And through the Keyblade, the power) To make a decision. He wanted to go find Riku, not stay at home lounging on the beach. He wanted to have all three of them together again, so he went searching. In my simple mind, it was always as simple as that. Your thoughts?