The obama deception

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  1. lexamus Twilight Town Denizen

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    I found this video on youtube and it talked about obama being controlled by bankers...sounds very weird...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw

    watch the video please...

    Is this video telling the truth?
    Should we believe in this video?
    do u think this video is fake?
    do you believe in Obama?
     
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    After seeing that the video description included the words "New World Order", I didn't even watch it, because I know it's probably a load of bullcrap. So to answer your questions,

    1) No.
    2) Definitely not.
    3) No, just wrong.
    4) Yes.

    EDIT: I tried to watch it. I can't.
     
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    In many ways, the video is true. In society where money runs our lives, the people who control the money control us. Obama, and the current administration, as well as every administration is really only a figurehead to what actually controls our countries, the big companies and the big banks.

    The video certainly addresses a problem, but it doesn't have the same impact as Zeitgeist: Addendum.
     
  4. lexamus Twilight Town Denizen

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    so U don't believe in the conspiracy stuff?.....Personally, this video made me kind of question the US Gov't
     
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    It took a video to make you question it?
     
  6. lexamus Twilight Town Denizen

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    well I'm not into government-related stuff....so...yes...but I had already watched the Zeitgeist thing...the one about 9/11

    and of course the US Gov't is not perfect and who knows....it might be evil...well I don't really know so that's the reason I posted it here...to see what people think of the video
     
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    Obviously that is very true, libre. Alex Jones and other conspiracy theorists have that fear that a master-plan is afoot, therefore we need to "stop the establishment." Which to some degree can be justified; there is tons of corruption and cover-ups and abuse and lying that takes place.

    That type of corruption covers a lot of things, such as financial power. When corporations are billions in debt (like ours), things get sold off to the government (weapons, for example), which scares citizens a lot. And right now it is especially scary because of the technology and the massive scale of the population.

    This kind of stuff is scary and if it is careful enough, it could become something not a lot of people expect. Such as one-world government. By the way, it isn't the relationships the leaders have when the countries are fused into a single entity, it is the money and debt. "Leaders" mean nothing when you can control social and political figures with the economy, because you are only as free as your purchasing power allows.
     
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    Yeah I guess you have a point, but who are they to be able to make that decision? Especially if they don't know that much in terms of how things really work in political and social spectrum. I'll admit we are seemingly better off, but that is because we tend to hide things within the system. Other countries probably come right out and say "I'm full of ****, and how do you like that?" We like to sugar coat everything. Again, it seems better, but you can never be sure. Under the surface, which is what I was referring to before, we are a lot worse.

    Yes keeping a secret isn't corrupt, however, keeping secrets can cause corruption. For example, in 2000 the CDC had reports of vaccines and the preservatives they had in them. Medical industries were mass-producing vaccines with a deadly neurotoxin called thimerosal, which was, when compared statistically, proven to be responsible for a drastic rise in autism. Even in 1931 when it was put in at first, the ethylmercury in this preservative influenced and damaged early development in children. During a small period of time from 1954 to 1970, the preservative wasn't put in and autism lowered exceptionally, until put back again in small amounts, until in 1989 when the level of vaccines drastically increased from all sorts of diseases. And God knows how many vaccines kids need to take today. Anyway, as I was saying, during the meeting of this report, the individuals on the board decided to try whatever they could to stop the publication of the information, so what did they do? They gave it to a private company, classifying it.

    Now, whether any medical industry knew about the effects is up in the air, because the large mass-distribution vials of the vaccine were made (which contained this preservative) instead of the smaller ones (with no preservative) because it was cheaper. In other words, it was profitable to use the larger vials instead of the smaller ones. It wouldn't surprise me if some of them didn't know, because the report results from that meeting were almost instantly gone, apparently.

    If you want to see the article I'm referring to... [x]

    I agree that keeping secrets isn't necessarily corrupt in and of itself, but it can cause a crazy inaccurate amount of information and cause "mysteries" which, in fact, are directly fabricated from corrupt behavior. We thing the mystery is natural and whatnot, but sometimes this isn't the case.
     
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