"The Myth of Reverse Racism"

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  1. A Zebra Chaser

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    Reminded of this by the last topic. I REALLY don;t get this.
    When a person says "there should be a genocide against white people so they know what it's like" that sounds PRETTY racist to me.
    On a similar topic, the myth og reverse sexism.
    When a woman says she's surprised I actually read a book, because most men don't read... that sounds PRETTY SEXIST
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    ...thoughts?
     
  2. Sara Tea Drinker

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    Shouldn't this be in a non-spam section? Just wondering, maybe that makes me anti-spammer. :P
    *gets pointy objects thrown at me* JOKING, JOKING!!!!

    In all seriousness, it was like yesterday when my mom was talking about how Asian people are good negotiators in a parking lot and the guy who was parked next to us and clearly heard the whole thing was Asian and actually the guy she was referencing. She didn't mean it to be an insult, actually thought it was a compliment, but I told her kinda not to bring it up again because some actually do take it as an insult. People are always going to have assumptions about races and/or what should happen to other races, some of it is out of meanness. *first comment* And some of it may be out of sexism (second), but it could just be observations that they see over the years.

    Also, like I've said before: People repeat what they grew up with. Most of the time. If I was like what I grew up with, I'd probably be quoting the bible and saying how Jesus loves me a lot more. :P If you grow up in a family who hates white/black/purple people, then it's highly likely you'll do the same when you're an adult. Same with people who come from a sexist society
     
  3. Anixe Hollow Bastion Committee

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    EDIT NOTE: Please refer to later posts in this thread made by others, as they explain it better than I did. ._.;

    Hi there.

    First off, forgive me for not being good with words. In fact, I don't think I'm the right person to say this. But here's whatever I can muster up.

    Alright, so, you've heard of white privilege, right? It exists. That doesn't mean that white people don't have problems, they just don't have the same kind of problems that non-white people do. It's something that society has been built upon and that we are struggling to overcome. I'm white-passing, meaning that although I'm a person of color, people at first glance see me and don't see I'm a minority because of their image of what that particular ethnicity/race looks like to them. So, I play this "game." I've met people (of all colors) at first where they don't realize I'm half-Asian. When I say that I am Asian, suddenly I'm "exotic" or "different." Sometimes, people have a 180 degree perception of me and that's how I sometimes lose friendships. So I keep my identity to myself until I'm sure that I can trust the other about how they will treat me.

    So, sure, people who do say things like that are *******s. But for white people to say that they feel "offended" by such comments really isn't the same as when a minority feels "offended." I've heard the term "reverse-racism" indirectly and directly used for some kind of alternative to say anything other than just feeling hurt. I'm not trying to inspite guilt in you (assuming that you are white or however you wish to identify yourself as), but this term is something that I feel is quite insensitive to those who do suffer from racism or sexism or sexual orientation discrimination.
     
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  5. ♥♦♣♠Luxord♥♦♣♠ Chaser

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    People always jump the gun when it comes to the words "racist" and "sexist".

    "Asians are better at MOBA's than white people" (random example)

    You could call that racist, but it isn't. First of all, it isn't hateful in any way. Secondly, in other countries gaming is treated like a sport, professional gaming that is. So more people from that country are generally going to be better at it because there is less of a risk in dedication 100% of your time to it.

    tl;dr people always fish for reasons to say something is sexist or racist.
     
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    Saying that racism is only racism if it's directed at a minority is a huge double standard. Discrimination based on race is racism, plain and simple.
     
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    That example reminds me of a specific line from this song

    "Ethnic jokes may be uncouth... but you laugh because you know they're based on truth"
    There are groups where certain traits become prominent. Canadians are polite, British accents are sexy, gay women are butch, what have you. These come from aspects that dominate on at some point dominated a large majority of the group in mind. Most Canadians ARE excessively polite, a TONNE of people find British accents immensely attractive, as the stereotypical looks/behavior of homosexuals of both genders started off as a way for gay people to easily tell someone what their orientation was without having to ask, which was especially useful not long ago when persecution for that was more widespread and generally accepted.
    There's a rhyme and reason behind a lot of these things, it's just easier to look at it in a really broad, yet specific way.
     
  8. Anixe Hollow Bastion Committee

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    But that's the thing, lol, it is not plain and simple. It's complicated, as with what I said before. To simply acknowledge that something is racist and move on isn't really gonna solve anything.

    Sooooo, I realize I may be not having a bit o' humor here. Yes, I love Avenue Q. I do embrace some aspects of stereotypes they present but not as certainly exaggerated as they make it out to be. In fact, being an actor, I sometimes do have to play the stereotype role to get work and I have no choice but to well, obviously deal with it. But you know, it's like, at the end of the day, we laugh it off, have a good run, but then go back to reality. Things aren't as sugar-coated and darkly humored as entertainment makes these things out to be. As still one of the many reasons why this is complicated :x
     
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    Except I said absolutely nothing about moving on. All I said was that racism is racism regardless of who it's directed at, and to think otherwise is a double standard and naive.
     
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    Of all things, acting has an easiest answer here. It's acting. It's far more important that have authenticity than it is to pretend that something never happened. You talk about sugar coating, but how is IGNORING that racism exists by refusing to portray it NOT sugar coating something?
     
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    Alright, you know what? Since I'm getting no backing on this from anybody else here, I feel like I'm literally out of words of how to respond, what to say. I did say I'm not good at words, so I'll prevent from saying anything more. Sorry this conversation has to end like this, but I just wanted people to understand where I am coming from. And I'm just not getting that at all.
     
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    I think your problem is that you' re bundling feeling offended / stating it' s racist and claiming to be discriminated together. The former does not entail the latter. I don' t think anyone here would be dense enough to play the white victim card.

    Personally I' ve mostly seen instances of that in the US news. Either the Ku Klux Clan type claiming whites are under attack or the Bill O' Reilly type claiming there' s a war on christianity. The recent onslaught of religious "freedom" bills and the gay agenda bullshit also come to mind. In short, it comes from bullies feeling entitled to bully.
     
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    With all this being said, I personally don't think race matters at all.
     
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    Both sides are right.

    Institutional racism, sexism, etc. is bigotry in society at large, from what I understand (e.g. a business refusing to serve non-whites; laws criminalizing homosexuality). This is bad. Then there's just people being racist, sexist, etc. This is also bad. Am I explaining this right?

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