Kingdom Hearts II The cloak of mystery....

In KH2 Sora as we know gets his memories from KH1 final mix. (We know this because we see Sora being attacked by Xemnas with his hood up) Which brings me to my question. If Sora had seen the cloak before as we know he did why didn't he make any indecation when he was introduced to them by Yen Sid?

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think final mixes contribute to the story. They just add some different features, is all.

 

Hmm..That's a good observation. Maybe he didn't show any signs of seeing them already because when Yen Sid showed him the images of Org. XIII, there were more than one standing there? And since he only saw one back in Hollow Bastion, he thought that the one he saw could've been any of those that Yen Sid showed him, so he didnt say anything? I know, it's not the best explanation ever, but it's all I got.

 

that could make sence but I still think he should of indecated the event.
and XIII- roxas they do only add a few small parts into the game but you see during Roxas's 6 days of summer that Sora say a cloaked figure who shot black lightning which he deflected with the keyblade. Which happened in KH1 final mix and we know is Xemnas

 

Are we talking about KH2FM*? Because I have normal KH2. If were not, exactly when did this occur? I've almost finished 4 playthroughs, and havn't noticed it.

*As in Roxas' summer. Just so no confusion arises.

 

lol I've only played the normal ones... Have a look during Roxas's dreams when he sees memories of Sora. You see one with Sora in Hollow Bastion in the same room you faced the Maleflicent Dragon. A cloaked figure walks up to him and shoots black lightning at him which he deflects with the keyblade and redirects it the the roof where it makes rubble fall. And then it shifts to another memory. (I did some research and found that the cloaked figure was Xemnas) Thats on KH2 normal version and thats why I think Sora should of mentioned that he remembered a figure in a black cloak.

 

They add different cutscenes and the like, and for the most part, they're canon. For example, the LS, Xemnas and MF fights are all said to have occurred. I think the only ones that don't count are Colosseum-esque matches, such as No-Heart in BBS, and Sephiroth in KH1.

Also, doesn't KHII's opening, showing a pair talking on the Dark Realm shore confirm it? I thought it was Xemnas and Roxas, and Xemnas states that he 'went to see him'. Or is my interpretation out of date?

 

no your right you do see that in KH2 but its acctually a cutscene from 358/2days isn't it?

 

Like I said, I'm really rusty. It might make an appearance in Days too though, as it's between Roxas and Xemnas. (I think.)

 

your right again but in days you get the full version where as in kh 2 you only ever get half the convosation

 

The cutscene that P is talking about happened both in Days and, before that, in KH2.
After KH2 came out, Nomura said the Dark Meridian scene wasn't an actual scene but a representation of Roxas' "emotions, dreams" and the like.
But then it actually happened in Days.

I haven't played Days, but it seemed to have happened as an actual scene, not a representation of anything so I'm guessing it was retconned or something.


And to answer the opening post, I think it was just because his memory was still rusty. I mean, they woke up from their year-long slumber, but they still hadn't remembered Castle Oblivion and its happenings, if I recall, despite the memories being there. I think it just took time for the memories to surface again.

I mean, did Sora even recognize Namine when Roxas and her did the out of body thing?

 

I don't think so, but that's because all memories of her were erased. He should have remembered Xemnas from KH1.

Then again, KH2!Sora is an idiot. I doubt he remembered, not because of Namine, or any mind tricks, but because he's just plain dumb.

 

Well Sora did bearly woke up from a one year sleep, So I guess he just needed a bit more time to remember all the things that he knew before entering Castle Oblivion. Or it could just be that if he were to have said anything about it then that would leave the people playing the game really confused becaue maybe they've never heard of final mix or seen that clip of Xemnas and Sora in hollow bastion even though it has been shown in the opening of Recom or how you said before like in the dreams of Roxas. But I think if that scene were to come out in the normal KH1 then it would have been likely Sora would have said something.

 

The main problem I'm having is that Roxas didn't remember every little bit of Sora's life so it's like a normal memory, we remember the most important parts and if the fight with Xemnas in kh1 final mix then I would of thought he would remember it.

 

They most likely had him say nothing about it because they knew that Final Mix wasn't released in the US, so they didnt want to end up confusing players who hadn't played Final Mix.

 

Thats acctually a very good theroy. I guess for people who don't research the final mixes or who haven't played them would get confused if Sora mentioned seeing a cloaked figure.... But wait then why show it as a memory? Wouldn't it of been better to only show memories from KH1 not final mix?

 

Very unlikely that this is the case. After all, the entire Dark Meridian scene is based around the premise that we know what Xemnas is talking about. Some people ended up guessing what happened, even without the actual scene, while others ended up completely lost. Either way, I think it's safe to say that Nomura doesn't have 'not confusing foreign players' very high up on his priorities list.

 

Sorry for asking, but the Dark Meridian scene is when Roxas and Xemnas are talking to each other in the Realm of Darkness, and Xemnas sais "I've been to see him, He looks Alot like you", correct?

 

Don't apologise for asking. B|

Yeah, you're thinking of the right scene. It's immensely confusing unless you've played the Final Mix, and know what Xemnas is talking about. Personally, I thought it was DiZ talking to Roxas, or something along those lines, until I found out about the FM scene.

 

Same with me, except I thought he was speaking of Riku, because in KH1's secret ending, (Not the FM version), it shows Riku wearing an Organization Cloak. I had assumed he was speaking of the clothing.