The battle begins....

Discussion in 'The Spam Zone' started by Sabby, Apr 18, 2012.

  1. Sabby Sleepy Panda Assassin

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    With Misty and Evilman tied at 6053 posts.

    who will win?
     
  2. Llave Superless Moderator

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    spdude .
     
  3. Boy Wonder Dark Phoenix in Training

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    Make posts count in the RP Arena and we'll see.
     
  4. Jiηx You're such a loser.

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    Just make posts count everywhere, bloody stupid to limit them.
     
  5. Fork These violent delights have violent ends

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    Then the Premium status would be useless
    more than it already is
     
  6. Llave Superless Moderator

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    You calling us useless?!

    Dems fightin' words right thar.
     
  7. Jiηx You're such a loser.

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    Make it a factor of time, not posts, time and rep, this way someone can't make premium in under a month, when a year is the required status plus whatever rep you see fit, makes more sense in my eyes.

    dedication is more factored through time than spamming "relevant" posts.
     
  8. Fork These violent delights have violent ends

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    There were already suggestions such as this though. This kind of system would require a lot of work. What would you do with the current premiums? It would be unfair to de-prem them. And if we keep them, it would be unfair for future members.
    Premium status isn't that big a deal in my opinion. It should have that many requirements. But that's just me >_>

    Plus making a time requirement would make the site get more premiums than it already has.
     
  9. Jiηx You're such a loser.

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    9/10 members don't stay on the site, you don't have to premium unless requested, plus the whole rep requirement deals with that.

    and to hell with the current prems who wouldnt meet the requirements, they know the section isnt that grand and that if they were under the time limit it'd only be a matter of time til they're back.

    Posts < Time
     
  10. Llave Superless Moderator

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    Vivi actually giving a fuck? D:
     
  11. Jiηx You're such a loser.

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    I've always had issues with posts not counting, never agreed with it, not that I was ever paid attention to by Sara when I brought it up when i was staff.
     
  12. Boy Wonder Dark Phoenix in Training

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    Well, Time =/= Dedication.
     
  13. Jiηx You're such a loser.

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    Time + staying on the site frequently enough to earn a rep minimum = more dedication than spamming the rp section for a month where the standards are clearly abysmal after learning of the quality of some posts there.
     
  14. Boy Wonder Dark Phoenix in Training

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    This has been discussed really recently, hasn't it? Rep is too easy to abuse here.I'll even admit to not being able to rep someone again so I'd go through the member list "random repping" people until I can rep who I want again.
    Also, the RP Arena's posts really aren't that bad. There was going to be a mod installed where only posts past a certain number of characters count.
     
  15. Jiηx You're such a loser.

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    Still a better system for time to be a factor more so than posts, maybe even to be included with a slightly reduced rep and post count, since premium "IS" supposed to be a nice coveted thing, it should be difficult enough to attain that it actually requires time as well as effort, if you really wanted to you could make 1000 posts in less than a month easy.
     
  16. Llave Superless Moderator

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    Time is never a good enough excuse on a forum. Ever. It's not fair to segregate people based on how long they've been on that given site, since it's something they cannot control. Just because someone joined before I did does not entail special treatment as a result of wasting their life longer than I have. If this is the case, why not just have an "alumni" thread of which members, based upon the year they joined, finally graduate into the supreme hierarchy of Premiumhood... Or further.

    Being premium is not a big deal. Yes, there are some perks, but it's not a status that significantly changes anything. (Lest you like feeling pink.) But the ideal measurement of fitting into this usergroup is dedication. The easiest way to calculate such a thing, whilst remaining independent from the biased involvements of fellow members, is post count.

    People always complain that post count is not fair because people just spam to get to 1,000 posts. While that is sometimes the case (I even confess to have done this as well), not every post someone makes is spam. There's a reason why only certain places count posts; Because they are intellectual, insightful, recreational, and helpful. Therefore, being continually active in the community and help stimulating involvement. As a reward, we are given some more liberties.

    Making an excuse that everyone post just to spam is an untrue misconception to the highest degree. 1,000 posts is a firm and fair requirement to make premium; It's been so in the past, and it will remain till we all die in December 2012 in the years to come. Whereas I do agree that there should be a bit of a reputation points requirement on top of the 1,000 post, there shouldn't be anything else pinned on top of that. Especially time.
     
  17. Jiηx You're such a loser.

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    I can disprove the 2012 theory for you if you'd wish, but it takes some time so i'd rather not.

    This is the only forum I know of where it segregates posts into ones that should count, and ones that don't, im sure there's other sites, but this is the only one i've seen which does it, and i've seen a fair few.

    I think it's pointless in that regard then to have a post count at all, if a post isn't deemed good enough to be tallied up next to your name, why bother posting it at all? It's silly and not needed imo, either make all posts count, or get rid of the counter, because it's illogical in that regard of "oh, this person has posted 10,293,192 times, but we only think 290 are worth counting towards a number" no sense in that.
     
  18. Mish smiley day!

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    I dread to think what my postcount would be if posts in the spamzone counted..

    I think a time requirement should be instated, but only a short one. I'm sure at one point there was a time requirement and it was somewhere around 3-6 months, which is easily attainable but would also weed out anyone who spammed the everloving shit out of the forum just to get a pink name.

    I also agree with a reasonable rep requirement... :B



    BACK ON THE ORIGINAL TOPIC..

    Misty is undoubtedly going to steal the crown.

    I'm on page 2 in terms of postcount and rep. :B (just).
     
  19. Llave Superless Moderator

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    Gimme a break man, a wee bit of comedy relief.

    Being radical on either end of this spectrum is not a healthy viewpoint. Make all posts count, or none at all. What's the point in that? A forum with no post count? Preposterous. Regardless, it won't change anything. This site is founded on quality, not quantity.

    If we were on the other end of the scenario, say where every post counted, we all would be complaining about how so many people just keep posting in the spamzone to raise their count so they can make premium at 10,000 posts.

    The fact of the matter is, I don't see a mass of members making premium every year. It's not like a sh!t-ton of people are rushing in for the pink. (That sounded wrong...) It's far too late to raise the post requirement, and completely unfair to put time in addition.
     
  20. Jiηx You're such a loser.

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    the system should've been put in place years ago to counter act with all posts counting plus a section where you don't really need a topic to keep it going, it's an issue i've whined about for years so much so it's almost lost all meaning given how old this site is, and how dead it is aswell.(you may consider this a fairly lively forum but older members will share tales that make this current forum seem like a narcoleptic trying to take a nap, pointless and uninteresting)

    Shame really, but what are you to do y'know? I'm going to take a nap, too old for debates now.