358/2 Days Sudden Theory On 14th Member

Discussion in 'Kingdom Hearts HD I.5 ReMIX' started by Zeftnon - The Superior, Oct 20, 2007.

  1. Zeftnon - The Superior Hollow Bastion Committee

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    So, last night I lay awake thinking about the new KH games, then I had a sudden brainwave. This might also be 358/2 Days' connection to KH3:

    Before, I never believed the idea that the 14th member is Aqua. But remember in the trailer, when Xemnas introduces her, everyone has a different expression, and Roxas' was either surprised or confused. So since Ven is connected to Roxas somehow, perhaps Roxas has a bit of Ven's memories and thought that the 14th member looked somewhat familiar.

    Now when Xemnas was introducing her in the screenshot, he kind of had a sinister, satisfied kind of smile - something he doesn't normally have. Plus, he said it was a day they "must commemorate". I don't think he says that EVERY TIME they get a new member, so the 14th member must be someone special.

    As for the other members' reactions, it's quite obvious they knew something about Aqua. Vexen and Larxene laughed probably because they thought it was funny seeing Aqua in an Organization cloak, something they've never seen before, and Lexaeus and Marluxia look mad because they know that having another Keyblade wielder in the Organization means trouble. Axel put his hand on his mouth because Roxas probably told him about his memories of a girl called Aqua.

    I also think I found an explanation for that new cutscene regarding Xigbar and Zexion. Xemnas must've found Aqua, then started erasing her memories in the "Room Of Sleep" and kept her armor there as well. Aqua's old memories were gone by the time Roxas came into the Organization, so Xemnas let her through the "Room Of Awakening" and made her member number 14; it was such a success that Xemnas said it was a day to commemorate (another reason for Vexen's laugh).

    Finally, people say that the 14th member can't be Aqua because her skin tone is darker. Well that's just the hood shadowing her. Remember, in the scene where Roxas is initiated into the Organization, it showed Xemnas face in his hood, and he was quite dark as well, wasn't he?

    And all this in one night. XP
     
  2. werkku6 Traverse Town Homebody

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    Good theory, now you made me to believe, that Aqua is number XIV in organisation.
     
  3. C This silence is mine

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    Hmm... Interesting theory but for some reason I don't think it's her...
     
  4. Luka Deafening silence

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    yeah i dont think she is it interresting though
     
  5. Eternal Session King's Apprentice

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    nice theory anyway ^^.. but when Xemnas in Room of Sleep, he still talking with Aqua armor.. does it mean he bring her back to the organisation?
    i thought Room of Awakening is for the other friend, Ven?
     
  6. OneWingedHeartless Gummi Ship Junkie

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    Good theory but i still don't believe the 14th member is aqua though
     
  7. La Sofa ('_')-l3 No worries

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  8. Anderson (☞゚∀゚)☞ You've lost the game.

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    The problem with your theory...is that it's more of assumptions rather than a statement supported by real details.

    Of course the possibility of Aqua being the 14th member is there...but there's still no evidence. I think it's because of her body shape, not to be perverted, since KH seems to be stereotypical about them in clothes and stuff.

    Ven may or may not be connected to Roxas. Of course, I've been so idle to KH lately, so if they've stated this, I'm sorry.

    Of course, your theory sounds very logical regarding the connection of Ven and Roxas to the Organization's expressions towards him/her.
     
  9. Thebazilly King's Apprentice

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    Well, I'll have to agree with Ryuuga for the most part. Nice job on thinking this all over, but there's really not enough facts to support Aqua as the 14th member.

    Besides, I really want some new female characters. There's not enough girl power in Kingdom Hearts.

    How can you explain that the 14th member looks younger than Aqua did 10 years before the Organization was created?

    And I also think that the Keyblade thing is starting to get overused. They're handing out Keyblades left and right now, and the game needs to keep the number of weilders down. Also on the note of Keyblades, why would Xemnas induct Roxas into the Organization if he knew that he was getting another Keyblade weilder sometime soon? It's stated that Xemnas only let Roxas in because he could slay Heartless and help with the completion of Kingdom Hearts.

    Anyway, sorry to ruin your work, but I really don't think she's Aqua.
     
  10. Akino King's Apprentice

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    Ryuuga and Theb have their points.

    I also agree that Aqua isn't the fourtheenth. *Shrugs* If it isn't her skin. it's her build. XIV seems to have a small and skinny figure than Aqua, IMO.

    And if Aqua is the 14th member, would she have a much bigger build and look a bit more mature looking? It's 10 years later after BBS afterall. Unless Aqua can somehow stay the same for a decade. Which would be impossible, since the normal human will have to age over a few years. And Kingdom Hearts does need more original female characters. (I mean, there are four original KH characters.)

    AND... I agree with Theb. I don't want anymore keyblade weilders. Square is handing out too much free keyblades to main characters these days. I'll just end up disliking this 14th member if she does turn up to have a keyblade.

    There isn't much evidence of Aqua being her. Nor much information about the 14th. But something we all agree on is... she will be a key character for the game.
     
  11. Destiny's Force Mess with the best, lose like the rest...

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    As much as I would like to think that Aqua has anything to do with this game, I've got to agree with the majority. The darker skin tone being caused by the hood doesn't really fit. Xemnas was already slightly darker-toned to begin with. (Compared to the other Organization members.) Xehanort's Heartless was even darker.

    And I also agree that there's not enough girls in the game. It's pretty much an ALMOST all-guy game, causing all those funny yaoi pairings to pop out there. (No offense to Yaoi fangirls.)

    BTW, totally agree on the Keyblade point. In KH, Sora's supposed to be THE Keyblade Master. But by KH2, he's known as A Keyblade Master. Of course, if we bring the whole BBS issue where there was a Keyblade war (hence, multiple Keyblade wielders) into the equation...

    For all we know, history is probably just repeating itself. By KH3, Sora, Riku and Mickey won't be the only ones holding the Keyblade and we'll end up with the 1000 Heartless battle all over again only with Keyblade wielders instead of wimpy Armored Knights. ;)

    Getting back on topic: Unless Aqua spawned a Heartless somehow, I don't see her as the fourteenth member.

    And as for the whole age issue, do Nobodies actually age? Xigbar's been around since the Keyblade war...

    Wait, scratch that. Namine's been able to age. Never mind. :silence:
     
  12. Eternal Session King's Apprentice

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    i think Nobodies can be age but they will not getting old..
    at first i thought it was Aqua nobody too.. as her memories asleep from the past..
    As for her dark skin, i do agree that maybe she cover her face with the hood make her seem darker..
    .. maybe she is a new character which have a connection with Aqua
    *sigh* Or else, i think she is Xemnas' s sister -_-'
     
  13. Nate_River Hollow Bastion Committee

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    what if she is soras long lost, twice removed, annoying, yet somehow "interesting", sister? if she has a keyblade then she MUST be related to sora or riku, like roxas. roxas is sora's nobody so he is a keyblader but rikus just riku... *stab all riku opposers* so if she has a KB she must be related to sora or riku...
     
  14. Antidote Façade

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    If the 14th member were Aqua, and Xemnas erased her memories, then how do you explain her becoming a Nobody?
     
  15. Wabba Twilight Town Denizen

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    Sorry if this is off-topic, but I searched for the trailer and found nothing, where is the link to the trailer you are talking about?
     
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    I've been leaning towards Aqua being the 14th member for some time, or at least her Nobody. She may also have fallen to Darkness perhaps by the apprentice of Master Xehanort. Terra was not as dark as Xehanort in KH2. The picture of him on the wall shows him well tanned. I believe that is a cause of being linked to Geezanort and having his dark heart within. I am very convinced Terra is tied to Master Xehanort. We don't know what happened to Aqua, but perhaps something with the apprentice did similar or just perhaps she turned out to have darker skin because all Nobodies do -not- come back as exact duplicates of their former selves. This was stated in the KH2 game. They resemble former selves but are not exact copies.

    What was said by Zeftnon I have noticed too and I agree with it. I don't see why there's so much mystery about a girl in an Org cloak if it is not Aqua in some fashion or form. It cannot be Namine. There's no other girl that fits in the spot that has been seen. Also, I really did not see the girl as 'that dark' either and assumed it was shadowing, but perhaps I am wrong. I'll have to check out the trailer again. Part of the effects of the cloaks themselves with the hoods up seems to be to make the wearers mostly invisible within. So I assumed it was a trick of the cloak itself perhaps.
     
  17. Nate_River Hollow Bastion Committee

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    what if the 14th member is Kairi? it sounds crazy and stupid but think about it... TWTNW... kairi gets KB
     
  18. Eternal Session King's Apprentice

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    Kairi is at Destiny Island that time, i think. I dont think she is Kairi XD.. She get her keyblade from Ansem or Riku...
    If she is weilding a keyblade .. maybe she could be connect to Aqua, since she is weilding a keyblade too
     
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    i think Repliku theory on Aqua is right..
    *sigh*