Kingdom Hearts II Sora vs. Org. XIII

i thought about this for some time now, and I realized that Org. XIII wanted to become a real being, along with all the Nobodies. They could of actually done some good, besides that fact they were screwing up the worlds. Why did sora have to do such a mean thing? All they wanted was a heart, poor Org. XIII -sad song on worlds smallest violin-

 

Dude... don't make me do it.

 

Because they were screwing up the world...

Its exactly like Terorist bombing random places for there cause.

The nobodies were ****ing over simple worlds. They had to be stopped. Nuff said.

 

Who were they hurting prior to Sora saying he would rather kill them then let them be whole.

Sora caused more loss of life when he refused to killl the heartless.

Your arguement got trumped.

 

cause in sora's and mickey's and everybody else's eyes,they were evil.and also on my personel note,sora is an idiot.

 

Mickey never said they were evil. I need proof! He only got mad at Xemnas personally when Xemnas used Kingdom Hearts as a weapon.

In fact, Mickey and Namine both implied otherwise about Organization XIII.

 

well he didn't say they were evil,he said it was the things in the darkness that they hated and they say that were doing evil things to people

 

When? Give me the exact line.

Mickey strongly implied that Org XIII was not evil.

Namine refused to answer when asked directly, "Is Organization XIII the bad guys?"

You would think she would have said "HELLS YEAH!" after what happened at Castle Oblivion. But she didn't, which tells me she truly thinks otherwise.

 

i am not about to argue with a lawyer,the court is yours good sir

 

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You can thank Repliku, Destiny's Force, and Pika_power for my debating prowess on this matter.

I've been through this arguement so many times I've seen every angle. I'm sure they could probably say the same thing from there end.

*TwilightNight* helped my case a lot too.

 

and for beating me i will rep you and this

 

You both are right in a way. Yes, King Mickey didn't say they were evil but he did say they had to be stopped, as did Yen Sid, as did Riku etc. They were messing up a lot of things and also not trying to get back to their bodies, but instead make the Nobodies whole as they were. The goals costed a lot of lives and also ironically made more Heartless and Nobodies. Their idea wasn't so wholesome but their method of employing it; even worse.

ICSP: Where did Namine and Mickey make like they were 'good guys?'. They didn't strongly imply they were not evil. Sora never implied they were evil either under your same argument. Your argument can be countered against you ICSP as Namine and King Mickey were clearly fighting against them and trying to help Sora who was being centered and forced to play the Org's game. Even Yen Sid never said they were -evil- but it doesn't mean that they did not have to be stopped. Their methods again, put them in the predicament they chose. Sora did not.

I'd suggest so people do not just get mad that another thread is devoted to 'Was Sora Justified' this move over to that thread. Please? I know others are extremely getting tired of seeing this argument everywhere else but there. Some even want that thread closed, but I think it should stay open because of reasons like this. It means people can go through there and ask this stuff as well as see what was already debated on.

 

they were hurting tons of people before we saw them...you dont think the nobody version of kingdom hearts was created all by sora's heartless kills right? Either way it doesnt matter. whatever time period your talking about isnt important to kingdom hearts, and if it is, then we'll definately see it in 358/2 days. Im pretty sure in 358 days you'll be hurting ppl...or at least killing heartless. thats what the mission system is for...

sora never refused to kill heartless. he said it, but he kept killing heartless anyway. there wasnt a moment in which sora didnt strike a heartless in a cutscene that came in close enough range.

 

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