Kingdom Hearts Seeing other Worlds...on a Raft?

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  1. TwilightTownShadow Destiny Islands Resident

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    This thread I read got me thinking. How are you able to see other worlds on a raft? I mean before they knew about other worlds out there were they thinking about other countries on the world of destiny Islands?

    Even if that's the case, how can they make it there with just fish(3),mushrooms(3),coconuts(2), and water (in one bottle mind you). They wouldn't have servived the trip or would have turned back if thier world wasn't destroyed.

    And another thing, how can Sora and Riku assume Kairi's from a different world if they only found her on the sand when they first met her. She could of come from anywhere or got lost for all they knew.
    I know it's just a game and usually logic don't count but lets just think logicly on this :3.

    So what do you think?
     
  2. GREE06 Traverse Town Homebody

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    This is funny because my friends and I always wondered about this and couldn't come to a conclusion to what they were thinking. This is one of the things about KH I don't think I'll ever truely understand.
     
  3. mudstripe Twilight Town Denizen

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    I guess they were really THAT desperate... not really one of Riku's best ideas.... :-P

    Or maybe that was all they had access to. You never really know...
     
  4. .:Xigbar:. Twilight Town Denizen

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    I laughed at how they intended to share a bottle.
     
  5. *dancewaterdance* King's Apprentice

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    From what Riku was saying, I think they weren't sure whether there were actually other worlds or not, they were just wanting to go out and look for them. How they got the idea there are other worlds in the first place, I'm not 100% sure. I also don't think they would've gotten anywhere on a raft. That bit seemed pretty impulsive to me :P
     
  6. destinyislands Merlin's Housekeeper

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    I really want to know where the parents are! Sora can't be older than 14, 15 at most when they're building this raft. And all of their parents don't care that their teenage children are going to build a makeshift raft and sail into the ocean in search of new lands? Very nice parenting
     
  7. TwilightTownShadow Destiny Islands Resident

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    lol so true. Maybe they were just planning on just running away :/? They're proberly like SCREW THE PARENTS WE HAVE A RAFT >: D!!!
     
  8. Misty gimme kiss

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    Don't forget that Kairi just washed up on the beach -- they knew she was from somewhere else, maybe or not a different "world," but most certainly a different place. For all they knew, Kairi's home could have been across the sea. Is the idea a little silly? Yes, but it's Kingdom Hearts we're talking about here. It's not as if they had another source of information, either -- don't forget that humans once thought the world was flat, for goodness sake.
     
  9. LoneWolf Hollow Bastion Committee

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    You remember how way back in the old times they thought the Earth was flat?
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    Destiny Islands must be flat? They'll fall into through space into a different world. Well, that's what I thought, brilliant idea Riku and the gang had.
     
  10. Misty gimme kiss

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    ... I was trying to make the point that we were ignorant of just where the seas of our world would lead us, so it's not like it's completely implausible for Riku to be.
     
  11. LoneWolf Hollow Bastion Committee

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    Ah, sorry, didn't catch that. But, I think Riku knows he's from a different world, vaguely that is. I thought of that when Terra was talking to Riku in the BBS Jump Festa '10 trailer. Better way to put it would be he has a sense of where he's from, but he doesn't know exactly where.
     
  12. Kaidron Blaze Kingdom Keeper

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    Maybe he doesn't have a sence of where he comes from but where he wants to go, like say if you were younger and a man from, lets say Tokyo and he spoke to you telling how cool Tokyo was you would go though life wanting to go wouldn't you?
     
  13. mudstripe Twilight Town Denizen

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    Where was that world? Was that Radient Garden?

    Anyway, that's not the reason he gave in KH and in the Jumpa Fest trailer though. He said he wanted to, "become stronger."
     
  14. Peace and War Bianca, you minx!

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    I'm going to guess the raft as a plot device to show how determined the three friends were to leave the island. It wouldn't have been the same if the game started off with them just discussing about maybe or maybe not going on a journey.
    The items to collect are two things I believe:
    1) To give the player an experience of the control system, since at the time it played very differently to other games at the time.
    2) To show their kid side, their immaturity. I mean it makes them seem a little naive to go on a journey across the sea with just a handful of items.

    I'm guessing that their islands are a very close society, meaning that if the girl wasn't from their village, she was from a foreign land, a 'different world' to theirs.
     
  15. Amandy-Chan Merlin's Housekeeper

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    I'm fairly certain they planned on running away, and that the idea to go on a raft was very impulsive, and not very well thought out. Also, it says in the KH1 booklet (which I now lost but remember reading at some point) that Sora and Kairi were 14 in KH1, and Riku was 15. And about sharing a water bottle, they're, like, besties, right? I'm sure they shared everything. And they're probably not too worried about Mono on Destiny Islands, and even if they were, I doubt any of them kissed anyone but their mothers by that point. XP
     
  16. TwilightTownShadow Destiny Islands Resident

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    I don't mind the sharing point but its the fact that it's only ONE fresh water water bottle. That bottle wouldn't even last them 4 hours if that, and once that's done there's plenty of sea water but it's not drinkable.
     
  17. Amandy-Chan Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Yeah. No doubt it wouldn't have worked out well if they had gone through with it. It was a rash decision that wouldn't have gotten them anywhere, really.
     
  18. Magick ~Meaner then my demons~

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    First of all, they were kids. Thirteen and fourteen, in Riku's case. They were doing what they could think of, they weren't the most brilliant planners, but they were kids. They had been brought up on the island their whole life, and they didn't know anything different, except for Kairi.

    Sora and Riku both grew up on that world their whole life, and new everyone near them. So Kairi shows up, and they don't know her. She doesn't know much either. The safe assumption would be that she is from another world.
     
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    It is weird to think that two 14 year olds and a 15 year old would figure that they could 'leave the world' by taking a raft. However, I think that was just meant to start them on their journey. They had the idea possibly to go on the raft, it leads them somewhere, they keep going through adventure etc, and somehow get off the planet. It was a bit too childish for 14+ year olds of today, and maybe the characters should have been placed more at like.. 11 or something, but it would also kill other aspects of the story to have done so.

    So, excusing their naivete, the other point is that Kairi came to them from the water. She was clearly not from around there and it had the other two kids curious, especially Riku. If Riku surmised, either on his own or by the voice in the cave, that she was from another world and somehow she was brought to Destiny Islands via the water... it makes a bit more sense to assume that a raft might be fine to make the journey to wherever she came from. After all, how did she survive in the water? It couldn't have been that long of a trip, one might think, right?

    I think in the end we just have to say the kids were a bit naive but also the circumstances of Kairi's arrival and knowing she quite possibly was not from the world, either by her very limited memories, the voice in the cave, or by her mannerisms etc that others watched were attributing factors. We may sigh at their naivete some, but in the end, that was a major part of the problem Sora and Riku faced throughout KH.. learning to understand the galaxy out there and how actual cruel people operate. They both tripped up and Sora just was fortunate he met the good guys first to help him. By KH2 they both are not so innocent anymore.
     
  20. mudstripe Twilight Town Denizen

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    First of all, I thought that in Kingdom Hearts I they were 13 or 14?

    Anyway, well I think that maybe the idea that Kairi came to them through the water, therefore she must be from another world, and they can get to that world via raft is pretty ridiculous. However, I wouldn't put it past Sora to try it. And Kairi might have been curious because she forgot where she came from. I just wondered how they both got Riku to go along with it? Maybe it was just the idea of the new world that got him in, not the fact that their mode of transportation was completely inadequate.


    Also, how did they get their parents to say "yes"?