Kingdom Hearts II Roxas And Naminé = Incest?

Yeah. The title probably caught your eye, didn't it? xD

Is been something that I have been noticing lately, that, while rare, some people appear to believe that they are incest because of the way they were both born, or to somehow represent it, Roxas being Sora's Nobody, and Naminé by fate coming from both him and Kairi.

In my opinion, they are not, and this is not because I like them. For first thing, in dictionary terms, incest is to "Sexual relations between persons who are so closely related that their marriage is illegal or forbidden by custom", or even "The statutory crime of sexual relations with such a near relative". Of course, this is also based on perception, and different views of the matter, but usually it's become a taboo because of the blood relation mostly. KH wise, other than having Sora in common, I don't see them as twins, or at anything else other a origin that does not truly tie them together. For example, I doubt they have each other's blood, if they even have any, or the same skin, or the same DNA. It is also, with the Report, I believe that Naminé doesn't have Sora's body, or any sort, but rather, simply used him as a reference, like a coding, to make it simple, not that she truly is made from him. She's more related to Kairi, in this way, and why she took the form of a girl, with a female body.

It'll also be awkward and odd, because, they do return back into Sora and Kairi, and if those two ever really hook-up...

So is with this, that I thought it would be a worthwhile discussion, and to ask what are your opinions on the topic. Other than Sora and Kairi, they are the most paired with, so I thought it interesting.

 

I don't even believe they like each other in a "loving" way.. so I don't believe it's insenced, they are unable to love anyway, seeing as they have no emotions.....

 

I kind of disagree with that, more so because of the end, when they talk to Kairi and Sora and when they smile at each other through them in the CGI. The suggeted hand-holding when Naminé reached for him in the darkness. Little things, basically. And as for love, Roxas and Naminé are born uniquely, so what fits other Nobodies, might fit them.

But I'm talking about the pairing in general if people are supporting unknown "incest" or a representation of it because of their creation.

 

I second this. It has already been proven that they are indeed able to feel emotions.


And for everyone who does think it is incest, tell me, ytf would a disney related video game ever have something like that? If you think that, then seriously, just go light urself on fire or somethen, becuz that is just plane stupid......(don't actually light yourself on fire, but still though, you certainly do deserve a good kick in the pants if you believe that)


And besides, it can't be incest, becuz they are not related. Yes, namine came to be due to the combination of kairi and sora's heart, but either way though, she is kairi's nobody, her alter-ego some have put it. But really, people who think it is incest, get a friggen life.....(sorry for flame, but that just sounds disgusting)

 

it wouldnt be incest.

the only thing that sora's heart was used for was to create namine, because his heart isnt completely pure .....unlike kairi's

by kairi's heart being within him...well you know the rest.

not only that , but the report in itself says so, sora's body and soul were only used as intermediaries.

and just because sora held kairi's heart, doesnt mean that the nobodies are brothers somehow.

 

The only reason people think Roxas and Namine are a couple in the first place is the theory that Sora and Kairi are romantically involved, so they obviously assume that Roxas and Namine are the same way too. Furthermore, I didn't see any distinct hints that they liked each other in the KH2 cutscenes. Like I said--Sora:Kairi::Roxas:Namine. At least that's what KH fans think, that is.

 

quite an interesting subject you've brought up. I for one have always belived that even though sora's soul was used in the creation of Namine, Kairi's heart was the thing that made Namine and created her. Namine is the nobody that exclusively embodiess Namine and Roxas is the one that embodies Sora. still, with this topic brought up, im having my doubts.

 

No.
Just....no...I doubt Nomura is going to put anything incestuous in his game, especially when disney is involved. Besides, Namine is Kairi's nobody and Roxas is Sora's. Seeing that Kairi and Sora are not siblings at all, I doubt I know, their nobodies are not, despite the fact that both hearts came from Sora. I dont think it could work...

 

They came from the same body so technically they are brother and sister. O_o

 

I disagree... it is not incest...

They have two unique Souls... only Partially the same body... but it has nothing to do with genetics...

Roxas even has a unique heart...

Bottom line... Roxas only partially exist... Namine doesn't... they can't be related...

 

They don't really fall in love. They smile at each other, but that's about it.
And they're not related to each other at all.

 

I wouldn't consider it incest really though she was born at the same moment as Roxas by Sora using the Dark Keyblade to unlock his Heart. Kairi's Heart was within his and the Dark Keyblade being used is what separated it. Though Sora's soul and body were used a between thing, Namine came out much like Kairi and really had nothing of traits from Sora really at all. Roxas was also different and if he's connected to Ven, that even separates them more.

On another note, I never considered Namine as being so 'interested' in Roxas as she had been in Sora in CoM. In CoM the story revolves around the fact that Namine drew Sora there and wanted his help and attention and she partially did wish she could replace Kairi in his heart. She was strongly connected to him in that regard and even asked if he'd want to remember her and the Castle Oblivion memories or the memories of his friends prior. She was in KH2 helping Roxas out but the chemistry really wasn't as there for them though she related to him as a Nobody to another Nobody. I considered them as having a budding friendship while Sora and Kairi have a budding relationship in the making, since Roxas and Namine didn't really know each other well even and the way they came off to me was just that way. A lot of fanfics etc depict them as closer but I didn't see that in the game itself.

 

It wasn't that they truly are literally, but some thought it as a presentation in a case, with Naminé kind of being from Sora and Kairi, and Roxas from Sora.

Somebody asked the same question on another KH forum, and actually, some were with the fact of incest, and, very surprisingly, provided good arguments as to why. It was kind of convincing, but I knew better. Anyone can be convincing with a well thought out post. It ended already, but it was a good haul that I enjoyed reading. Fortunately, here it seems, everyone pretty much agrees =).

 

Not me or Repliku... we just fire back with an even more well thought out post...

What were some of the arguements they posted?

 

xD

That's exactly why it gets tiring after a while.

I don't really remember. It was quite long ago, and I just got reminded of it today when Pika mentioned Naminé and Roxas as a couple in the Law Firm, which is why I posted the thread. I know they obtained a lot of points about it representing incest, and even one came in with something tackling what Ansem The Wise wrote, about Naminé and Roxas's bodies. I just wished I got it saved, because that's the one I can't bring myself to remember the most :/.

 

I guess your right, but in the end, They aren't the same person. and sora and kairi aren't related, so why would those two