358/2 Days Post Game: Xion - Your Opinion

I figured since the game has come out for quite awhile in Japan, and since the other thread is filled with previous opinions (probably those who posted won't come back again), we can write down our present thoughts about Xion as of now. We are aware of her character, role, and fate, and liable to reserve our feelings properly. The poll also has a lot of options, seeing as not everyone has a specific sentiment (some people might not hate her, but dislike her. Some people might like, but not "OMG!XION<3<3" love). I kind of answered this question on another forum, so I'll post it here as well.

Naturally, this will have spoilers for those who have not yet played the game. So, beware and do not step in =P.

As the OP, I'll have to say:

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She was o-v-e-r-r-a-t-e-d.

- Half of the Organization had more role than she did, despite the lack of depth for each character, and even in more than one game. Axel and Saïx, maybe the others who's real names we haven't figured out will maybe be in BBS. The other half of the Organization are the apprentices, which have a tie in Xehanort's past.
- Coming from this, to be truthful, they wasted too much valuable screen time for a character who in the long run, won't matter just as much as Repliku did in the large KH mythos. They went too far. They had other eleven characters to pursue and give some personality to, some deeper meaning, and all we got were Secret Reports, which is bullshit, sorry to say. And that's what bothers me the most out of all of it. This was the only chance to go through the problem and fix it. Not to mention, we had to sit through the constant wangst. It felt more like Roxas's and Xion's game. With Axel. Not just Roxas's time in the Organization. The Organization itself felt like background decoration, and they were there only because that's where Roxas lived. And all because of a being that will never be used again? Yeah, they wanted to develop Xion somewhat. But what about the rest who have near nothing? Riku Replica, we got his story, his thoughts, and his battle about his existence. And CoM didn't spend the whole game on that, while able to concentrate on other things. And this was in the GBA. I know the Organization members would be side characters, minor characters. But, honestly, other than the three, all that was left was Riku to be of importance a little. I would understand if the members were side characters and villains in Sora's game, not on their lives. But here...it's their territory. And there was nothing done.
- The whole replica thing was an unneeded complication. KH2, was, honestly, just fine without Days. We just got the simple meaning. Sora needed Roxas because he was his other half. Without him, Sora's memory completion will slow, and he would never wake up. To the point. Nothing more, nothing less. Hell, Xion wasn't ever mentioned, or existed, rather, and there weren't at all any other thoughts in the game itself of her. The only connection that's worth it's the dual-wielding, and why Roxas inherited or it got passed down to him. Which would be explained in BBS, mostly; the Keyblade's methods. Xion wasn't needed for that either. It's that's just the same as Xigbar seeing Ven. Minor hints. BBS will still go through with it, we were just given an example that still wasn't really promising, or needed to be seen. I'm sure there were other probable facts that makes sense that would awaken that power within Roxas. For example, if he really had Ven's Heart, and he was connected with Sora at the same time. It even gives more mystery to BBS in the long run, too.
- Xion's personality was bland. She was a mixture of Naminé the most, quiet, bit bashful, and depressing, yet, without her charm. She also got Kairi's spunk, and constant giggling genes. She was nice, sweet, kind. She was so lovely, and an obvious good girl. Xion was designed only as someone to sympathize with, having endless monologues about her existence, and her friends. Angst, angst. And, just really. Just...meh. She didn't stand out among the rest except that she wielded. And she ended up not being a real female. I'm certain people place her in their favorites list because of her saddening, oh so tragic story, and her death. And that's okay. I'm just not a person to fall for it. Sympathize? Of course. Have her death affect my opinion? Not really. A character has to get me from the get-go, because that's what sets me up for the tragedy, if there is any. And if it wasn't for the unnecessary troubles Xion caused that was basically, a summary of the whole game in itself, she would be boring. Riku Replica's fate was much sadder, let me tell you. Everything was a lie to him. He had no friends, the person he cared for and deeply had feelings for...that had been constructed out of nothing, but false memories. While having no happy memories of his own. The whole gang of Organization members were complete asses to him, even Axel, throughout his whole short life. He was manipulated and used. He wanted to be real, and become his own person. Even going as far as fighting the real Riku for it. And he died a death that he didn't expect or wanted. So, any one who said Xion is a sad fate, check again. She had her moments, memories to keep her okay, even though everyone forgot her. She thought for herself, and decided her fate. And she was glad and alright with it. So no, that doesn't work. In fact, the only one I feel sorry for is Roxas in this whole thing.
- Also to add in: I felt like they were forcing and trying too hard for Xion's "suffering" >.>. The nightmare, for one. And then that random yell of frustration after Riku handed her ass to her that was suppose to make us think she was so torn (actually, Xion got her ass handed to her a lot of times). Seriously? Girl, or boy, or "it". Whatever. Chill out. Even Roxas had a better reason to yell in anger since he couldn't thwack Diz with his Keyblade repeatedly.
- The "trio" was shit :/. Without Roxas having a say, the real connection between the other two, it would have never happened. I shouldn't question the friendship between Xion and Axel if this was a tight group. Speaking of Axel, he blatantly chose Roxas over her. Despite what some views may be, no trio has ever outwardly expressed, or written, in this case, favoritism amongst each other.
- She was a plot device to keep the game interesting. That was all she was made for and her role. The Organization were sacrificed for a plot device that Nomura was excited for since she was made so "cleverly"...
- Sora gives birth to a lot of things. That's what Days taught me in the end. Next, it's his energy or something of the like.

Overall - I am neutral on her character, though it's bordering more on dislike. She certainly isn't my favorite, and she certainly didn't get my attention other than the freak show she gave Roxas at the end. But I'm not going to rant as I did before. She was just...there's still no reason for her to have ever existed, basically. I mean, what was her purpose? Other than being some failed interest? Take Xion out, and the series is not affected at all. And if Nomura isn't creative enough to have figured out another plot point for Days other than a clone, then he shouldn't be a director (not that I'm going to ignore the lack of professionalism, and letting bias and favoritism take over, along with his staff). Because there could be many obstacles that Roxas can go through. Xion didn't need to be given this much attention. Or have a side game wasted on her.

 

Well, think of it this way. Xion was not the reason for Days, Roxas was. Xion was a character there probably because the game was made as if we hadn't already played KH2. Like RE: COM, where even though it was a remake of a game and the game after it had been out for a while, it still made little reference to KH2. Xion was there to show that Roxas was connected to Sora. Like this.
Sora, Riku, and Kairi
Roxas, Axel, and Xion

I'm very convinced that Days was made as if KH2 didn't exist yet.

 

More like KH2 was made as if Days didn't exist yet (which is true). That paragraph doesn't make Xion less useless.

And if Roxas was the reason for the game, they didn't appropriately show it. It looked like both Roxas and Xion's game, with Axel. Rather than "Roxas's time spent with the Organization". I wonder where the hell did the "Organization" part go. CoM and Re: CoM were actually important in the story (it affected many things, including Days). As few as they were, there were hints thrown throughout the entire game. The beginning with Roxas's tutorial. The faces in Luxord's cards of the diseased members. Jiminy's journal. Hell, they even made a comment on traitors and alluded a lot to what went on with Sora's memory recovery in FM+. Xion's existence was nothing, but pointless. Zilch. And it still remains pointless. Never mentioned, nobody remembered. She adds nothing in the large KH plot, and was only there to serve as a plot device to make Days not look like a fanservice game. And disappeared as a plot device. Not to mention, that I expected more personality out of her, but it turned out she was as boring, sweet, and quite predictable. She's better developed than Kairi, but doesn't stand on her own. I still marvel at how people add "cute" as a character and reason to like one >.>.

As I said, the "trio" was crap (as much as they try to shove it down). Roxas already had Naminé to represent the Kairi side of the three, along with Axel as the Riku. They just never appeared on-screen together (though Naminé and Axel bonded behind the scenes). This is not adding that Xion is not even a Kairi, or a real female. But a Sora.

And honestly, there's no reason to tie in that Roxas is connected to Sora anyway. That's as obvious as five years ago. The important role lies in Ven now.

 

((I never judge till I play the whole game... Let's say Kairi, I played KH1, CoM and 2.... And I have summed I really thing she is no more then a KH game tool... Thus I hate her guts ^^; Namine is okay.... I am neutral to Xion so far also...))

 

I have played the game a few times, but of course it was only demo version. Though it was nice for Square -Enix to let me play muliplayer mode at the Comic Con. It was fun. Anyway judging by the you tube, some translations, summaries and etc I guess I will give my stand point over this. Xion seems to have more spotlight than even Roxas. It is supposed to be his game, but it feels more like hers regardless with controlling him, missions or interaction with various members. They would of done better to have left some more organization scenes in, instead of boosting up Xion scene. That is a regret in the game, not to mention the poor effect with having her become some kind of transformer knight creature just like a copy cat of one of Xenmas' forms in KH 2. Really unnecessary. Normura was thinking of leaving her an nobody, but he thought it would of been too boring as he said in an interview. Big mistake I think I would of liked the nobody idea better, and then the tragic thing of some member hunt her down. It would be more suitable and acceptable especially if that nobody was either Axel or Roxas.

Axel's relationship with Xion is more obligated than anything. Even when they are sitting there on the Clock Tower. He is very quiet and she is the one who has to talk to him. The trio thing was forced, uncomfortable, and even seem silent unless when someone else. There is some resentment especially with Roxas tells Axel about him being with Xion. Of course Axel is bothered with Xion hanging out with them, all the time, but accepts it because of Roxas. If it weren't for Roxas it would of not happened. Roxas held the glue together. Axel's only real relationship with Xion is bringing her back to their home. He had no problem dealing with this order and would of killed her if requested. It is no surprise that he chose Roxas over Xion as he even knocked her out. He probably never trusted her either.

Like it was stated she is only a plot device and experiment gone wrong. Very quiet, nice individual, but I also find her too predictable and seem more emo than anything. I tried to give her a chance in the personality department and the only real thing there was when she screamed, in the cutscene. And the fact when she almost fell off the cloak tower, and was jumping up and down with Roxas with the keyblade and her laugh/giggle. And confrontations. Those were the only notions that made her seem real. She does have a back bone, but she is also a downer. I am surprised that Roxas can stand her, but then again he seems to be a downer in this game as well. Anyway, she is more like a clone of Namine, Kairi and of course Sora all in one. That is the biggest let down. It did not need to be there. Sora always steals the show even in something that was supposed to focus more on the organization according to the tabloids....hints of BBS, but still forced. However, I expected it considering he is Nomura's favorite character.

The thing I want to know since she dropped off the face of the earth. Do any of the organization members even remember her at all? It is kind of stupid for Xenmas to introduce all 13 of them to her, and then afterwards... then what? The surviving members are at a meeting, but of course it was not translated, and then Roxas ends up running away.
We only get that Riku has his memories erased of her. But about the others. No not my knowlegde. It ties together the other events, but still it is more forced in the development department.


besides little interaction with the organization members.

 

The trio thing is to keep with the trinity issue of KH. Sora, Riku, Kairi = Roxas, Axel, Xion. The thing is, I agree that the trio thing just did not work in this game because really It was Roxas and Axel or Roxas and Xion.

I can honestly say I never expected this game to be very great on plot and I was right, so I just planned on playing it because you get to play Org members which in itself was alright. Since I knew it would be a lame plot, as most things that we needed to know were explained in KH2, FM and the novels, 358/2 Days was easily predictable as a game that was in the end... a last glance at the Organization for fans and a story about Roxas. Xion was tossed in to interest those of us who did not really care so much for Roxas, as was Riku. We needed some reason to waste our time on a game that dealt around a character that has fans but not enough on his own to carry the game successfully. The hopes we'd glean more about the Org too, was another purchase point, but apparently not enough.

I'm sad that the game did not focus more on the -Organization- itself and give us their back stories more. Sure, we'll learn more about some of the apprentices in BBS, but what about the people that were not apprentices? It also could have given some more light on what Riku was doing and his time for a year, but yeah, not much there either. Yet again, I cannot really be annoyed too much because as I said from the beginning, I never assumed this game would be big on plot as it seemed more a 'fan' game for Roxas fans and a goodbye game for the Org. I really could wish though that it had been a grander farewell for the Org by us getting more on them, since we may not see anymore of most of the members if any after BBS. If it was going to be a fan game... it'd have been nice if it catered to also those of us who just didn't find Roxas as cool as some of the other Org members. Ah well.

Back to Xion... I agree with TN when I say I felt little sympathy for her. Oh boy, another piece of Sora. I think we got over the sadness of that with Roxas having to give up in KH2. The clone deal.. *sigh*. Repliku, I felt bad for. The only two people who even seemed to care about him were the two people he fought against, and he died and it was tragic. Xion's story was feeling rather forced and yet we also get another 'goodie two-shoes' girl where the only thing cool about her was that she had a Keyblade. Sora's memory.. *yawn*. I don't hate the character, really. I just think that Nomura could have done better and even in the end, the game could have been made without Xion at all and showed more on the inner workings and background of the Org and it would have served its purpose. More on Riku and Mickey and DiZ could have also been in there. Xion in KH2 is non-existent, which shows she pretty much came as an afterthought to get people interested in the game more. A lot of us had thoughts maybe that she was connected to Aqua...but newp. I guess I call it poor character development on a total unnecessary character and I hope Sora's all put together now and Kairi too though I get the feeling that since Kairi lacks her memories of her life before Destiny Islands except for her grandma... it's not over. I can hope so, but there's always a chance, isn't there?

So in closing, I don't hate Xion. I just feel like she gave no lasting impression as Roxas and Repliku did. I can't say I will miss her, because I really didn't feel much connection to her. I feel more sorry for Riku and the Organization members, especially the non-apprentice ones, because we may never get a chance to have known what they were actually doing, or who those org members were before they became Nobodies. Such is life though. At least so far, BBS seems to have a great plot, so I have hopes it won't disappoint.

 

Too bad I can't make long posts like you guys :P

I haven't played the game yet, but even before it came out, when all 3 games were just anounced, I was sure that 358/2 days will focus on gameplay rather than story, coded will focus on story rather than gameplay, and BBS focus on both story and gameplay.

Xion doesn't look like a big deal to me in 358/2 days from what I've read. She's just another person (but is she a person after all?) who wields a keyblade, belongs to organisation and is tries to keep the friendship power in this KH like in all KH that have been out yet.

It's not like they couldn't make her more influencial and important in this game. They easily could, but that would also make the KH series even more complicated, and we all know that now we want answers and not questions.
Plus, I'm sure they have plans for the rest of the org. and Riku which will reveal everything for them, maybe mostly as a whole for the organisation except for a few individuals, and I'm sure they will reveal them on the same game and I don't mean BBS, because probably won't focus more in details but in the whole "Kingdom Hearts" idea.
I'm talking about Kingdom Hearts 3. Let's not forget, that those 3 games, are nothing more than big mini-games between serious stuff in KH. They are just bridges help connect previous KH titles with the next one, KH3.
The series haven't finished yet. As I said, KH3 is the next true title. Why make a character in 358/2 days just to finish her off in the end? And no reference in her anywhere else? It's not Final Fantasy games that have nothing in common between them. Everything is connected between the KH titles. I'm sure that Xion will play a role in the next KH3, and help expanding the titles. Big role or small role I don't know, but she will be a key in that game's story.
Besides, if it wasn't for a new character, what could possibly be new in KH3? We know that KH3 will not be a flash-back like BBS, so there's must be something new in it, but not so new at the same time (if you catch my drift). Of course, as I said BBS will focus in storyline most, but not the storyline of org. as we know it or Riku or individuals' or details (important details). It will focus more in Kingdom Hearts, the whole idea of Kingdom Hearts, and explain things about it. It will be in my opinion the spine of KH3. What will be new and large in BBS, will be the "common knowledge" in KH3. That's why they'll use references to Xion (or who knows... maybe Xion herself huh?) in KH3.

And as I'm speaking about KH3, I'll say a few things about Coded too.
Coded is nothing more than a small tiny short mini-intro to KH3. Nothing more, nothing less. And a way to pass the time while waiting for the bus to come. The end :P

 

I don't see why other people post. Noone can beat Repliku in terms of posting. :D
Xion was another lame attempt to make the KH story all "dark" and "complex", when her character (or lack thereof) was uninteresting and unneccesary, as are these three games. The organization were nothing more than generic, haphazardly written villains with little character (there's a reason Axel has a fanbase: He's as close as a Org13 character got to having an actual personality ;).

 

I'm going to wait for the game before I decide, but you are right, it does seem that Xion is unneccesary for the storyline at this point... BUT that doesn't mean that the Organizations story will end at that point... I personally hope that Nomura has plans for future games that will half-way explain the necessity of this game... (I hope that made sense) I could kinda see that happening...

So, I'm going with Neutral...

 

Most people agree on the fact that the game was whored out to Xion instead of Roxas or the other members. That's mainly what I don't like.
She was used pretty efficiently and well for a plot device, but her desmise could have been better. Everyone just "forgot" about her? Too...redudant

 

I liked Xion but up to a point. I agree with the 'trio' sucking and the 'Too Much Xion' stuff. But then after you play the game to find out she's not even a nobody just an incomplete clone of Sora? come on, that's kind of cheap, "Where did you get the memories Xemnas? Namine ran off with Diz and Riku." who happened to get at least 40 seconds of game time in the end. I thought we were going to find out more about all the other members apart from Roxas.. we found out some names(Ex: Axel= Lea) but we didn't find out about any others.. not even Xemnas.. and he's the leader of the organization. My opinion.. Xion was just there as eye candy for Roxas until she found out she had to 'Absorb him to become whole' and all that bullshit..(sorry for the language) and then in the end she just went along and killed herself. I mean I cried.. But I cried hard at Riku Replica's end.. and Zac in Crisis Core.. even The poorly made Aeirith's death in FF7.. All in all Xion was just basically there.. to annoy the hell out of everyone else.. and to become close friends with roxas.. The Axel parts IDK I guess Axel being like that must have been something she didn't plan for to happen in her 'absorb roxas' mission..

 

That's not a purpose. Days had a few BBS hints, but those were even rare and few. All that was needed was Xemnas, and Roxas, really. The only time Xion was useful in that regard was that Xigbar saw Ven in her due to the connection with Sora's memories, hinting more that he did meet them. But it's not like this changes the course of the BBS plot at all <-- that's a purpose. It just signifies what we already suspected. Which could have happened with or without Xion's existence.

Well, there are a few things you missed. People have concluded that Xemnas sampled Sora' memories back in KH1:FM, when he passed through him the same way Marluxia did in Castle Oblivion. However, it could have at least garnered some explanation. I thought that was more due to CO's abilities, than the actual Nobodies. So they can sample memories of others now?

And as for the "absorption", there was nothing of it. Roxas didn't absorb Xion in her death. Xemnas's attempt, or plan, I suppose at the end of the game, since things were going wrong, was that either Roxas or Xion finish each other off. Granted, it was Xion who had the proper workings to really absorb Roxas into her, which was the "mission". But she decided against it, and pretended to put him in danger for him to kill her, as she was aware he wouldn't do it willingly. There was no "going insane" as people are spreading.

 

I cried when Xion died. It was sad. I really liked her.

 

At least she provided a neat theme song.

 

LOL.

That was great.