Kingdom Hearts II Parts of a Human

All right based off the games (mostly Ansem Reports) we find that a human is made up of a body, spirit, and heart. When a person dies a heartless is created. And if the spirit is strong enough it will move on it's own and the body will be discarded. We also find that when a heartless is created the light of the heart is sent into darkness. Now Sora was rescued by Kairi but who knows what would happen after a while of that. Sora recalled losing all hope when Kairi saved him and that was only after an hour or so, if even.

But Sora and Roxas were coexsisting for about a year. Even if Sora somehow got the body back he still was lacking a soul. Does this mean that the theory was wrong or that Sora wasn't actually human for a year? But if he wasn't human what was he?

 

............that really is confuzling idk

 

Yeah *scratches head* Umm, he's one of them dis-souled things :D Master Xehanort's lil' boy :D

 

Yeah, I noticed it too. I smell a plot hole. Its possible that it will be explained in Birth By Sleep.

I have a theory.

Roxas used Ven's soul body and heart. (He can feel emotions)

The way Ven got into Sora was through the Keyblade. Perhaps at the end of Birth By Sleep, they place themselves in the Keyblades.

 

i'm a little boy wwweeeeeee no but serisouly speaking though i guess that would make sense^^

 

And people say a video can't be philosphical :sly:

 

Hmm, that's quite clever. This could be a hint towards solving the Sora/Roxas/Ven connection. Oh yeah and death has nothing to do with becoming a Heartless. You only become a Heartless when you either give in to the dark or another Heartless attacks your heart.

 

this is the first thread devoted to this topic but ive heard several theories on this the one I believe is that:

when u play roxas' story and finally meet sora, a third of roxas already merges with sora. Remember, donald and goofy/mickey/ anyone else who isnt super closely related to sora cannot see roxas, and the proof for this is when roxas encounters sora in TWTNW goofy and donald cannot see him, as they just recall fighting some samurai nobodies. Donald even remarks that sora is seeing things because he's tired.

After Sora beats roxas while they were in sora's heart, sora merges with another third of roxas so he now has 2/3s of roxas. Remember in the organization gravestone area, where u fight saix and luxord a part of roxas' gravestone is still "open." This can represent the third that is left...

finallyyyyy, at the alter of naught where sora actually sees roxas conciously for the first time, roxas looks ghostly and transparent...even so to sora, riku and kairi...this is when roxas fully merges with sora.

So, idk, i guess through most of the game, sora had his half of his heart and 1/3 of roxas',...it makes u wonder on how much a human can survive with...

 

Were not playing jig-saw puzzle here xD

 

The Organization sees him, as does DiZ. And neither of them have a strong connection with Sora. So your theory goes bye bye.

And that Sora vs Roxas battle happened within Sora's heart, so thats why you fight him in the Station of Awakening, and why Donald and Goofy dont see him.

The gravestone still being open means that part of Roxas still exist in Sora. Roxas never died, he just became whole.

Roxas looks ghostly in the alter of naught because on that occation, its just his soul, not his soul and body.

Hmm... regardless of which of the two theories you gon on... Sora either had half a heart, or a whole heart the entire time.

 

my theory isnt gone yet. U have no proof that the organization sees sora. The way i see is that they think Sora is a Roxas who dyed his hair and changed his clothes. Sora and Roxas have the same face, the same build and the same weapon, so its plausible that they could think that. Besides, DiZ only sees Roxas before -if my theory is right, the first third of roxas merges with sora...

And with the battle with sora and roxas in sora's heart: you're forgetting one main thing: roxas appears before sora, donald and goofy, and THEN sends sora and himself into sora's heart after attacking sora with a keyblade.

I never said roxas died...im not sure what that place is called, so i alluded it to a cemetary. Its not called a graveyard in the game even...

Also ur alter of naught statement: what? If my theory is wrong, which im not saying is perfect, then when did he lose his body? All Nobodies have bodies.

 

But your tring to say that no one saw Roxas. If Roxas never had a body.

Also, its not called the Cemetary, but I knew what you were talking about. Its called "The Proof of Existence."

If your just arguing that no one saw Roxas after he did merge with Sora, then your right. And I wont argue with that.

 

Actually according to Yen-sid. Nobodies are born when the spirit begins to move the body despite the absence of a heart but over time the body would decay so the spirit alone is all that is left but it is still a nobody. In my summery above I just decided to say discarded because no bodies don't need a body and the ones that have one can't sustain it for long.

 

ohhhh i gets it now...yes i was forgetting that part.