Kingdom Hearts II Orgy XIII Battle Schemes

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  1. Goofy Twilight Town Denizen

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    Uhm... just by re-watching KH2 boss battles, and Re:CoM, and FM+ battles with the Org. members... I really don't see all of their attacks and abilities... I would like to get to know them better... Here's what I've come up with, and things marked with ??? are what I don't get...(In Xemnas' case, I mean BEFORE he gets his cool dalmation suit. lol)

    Xemnas: (x2 Red Energy Beams) Force Wall, Nothingness HP Drain, Sliding Shroud???

    Xigbar: (x2 Laser Crossbows) Fire, Fire Barrage, Stand Upside-Down, Teleport, Fire interdimensionally, Change setting.

    Xaldin: (x6 Lances) Aero Shield, animate lances with wind powers, Mini-Tornadoes, Wind Gusts, Lance Dragon Attack

    Vexen: (Shield) Freeze Attack, Ground Ice Spike, Hailstorm/Blizzard, Data/Replication???

    Lexaeus: (Tomahawk) Earth-Rising Seismic Slam, Boulder Toss, Aura???

    Zexion: (Mirage Book) Disguise, Manipulation of Light & Darkness, Book attacks??? Book Powers??? Inside Book Attacks??? Soul Eater??? Duplication???

    Saïx: (Claymore???) Lunar Fire, Berserker Mode brought on by substantial amount of absorbed moonlight-- exhausted with use.

    Axel: (x2 Chakram) Fiery Chakram Throw + Fireballs, Fire Wall, Explosion??? (Vexen kill)

    Demyx: (Sitar) Water Clones, Column-Streams of Water, Water Bubble-Attacks

    Luxord: (x52 Cards, x1 Die) Manipulate cards' movement, Change size of cards, Hide 2-dimentionally inside of random card--facedown shuffle, Dice Throw, Penalty Game

    Marluxia: (Scythe) Crescent Wave, Crescent Energy Scythe Slash, Flower Petal Storm, #??? Black/Red Holes in Floor???

    Larxene: (near-limitless Throwing Knives) Lightning Strike, Magnetic Paralysis, Thunderstorm, Duplication??? (I at first thought they were after-images, since she WAS lightning-fast, and the majority of the time one attacked at a time, and they all disappeared once one of them got caught in a combo, but then they start coming in packs of 4 from all directions, and one of them gets a Reaction Command from Sora, having him throw one into the other, smacking them together...)

    Roxas: (Oathkeeper & Oblivion Keyblades) Regular Swordsmanship, Aerial Swordsmanship, Bursts of Light.
     
  2. KnightMysterio Destiny Islands Resident

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    The Organization members have a variety of powers related to their attributes, natural Nobody abilities, and their weapons, so they potentially could do a lot more.

    Sliding Shroud: When he encases himself in a ball of darkness and moves around real fast, right? Possibly this is just a fast evasive move that Xemnas likes to use.

    Data/Replication: Vexen is a brilliant scientist and like Ansem's other apprentices, is probably very familiar with the creation of artificial Heartless. He's also obviously a very skilled cloner. It makes sense that he might have a mobile device for the conversion of an opponent's physical data into a Heartless clone.

    Aura: Lexaeus is an Earth element, so the aura is probably a manifestation of him utilizing his Earth element to increase his body density and make himself stronger.

    Book attacks: While trapped inside Zexion's book, Zexion can manifest more books to smack the opponent.

    Book Powers: Zexion's book abilities can probably be explained as being similar in nature to Luxord's card abilities. Such as his ability to manifest multiple books to attack, energy waves from his book, and the command list alteration (which in storyline could probably be explained as Sora being forced to read a book until he gets to the end and is able to actually get rid of the book, or something like that). Even his ability to trap people inside books is simply a manifestion of his abilities through the book.

    Inside Book Attacks: I assume you're referring to the Spotlights Game? Zexion has full control over his book and its abilities, and can manifest himself inside the 'book world' in various ways.

    Soul Eater: It's been said officially that Zexion can use his illlusion powers to copy the weapons of others.

    Duplication: Zexion is an illusionist. He can make hard light copys of himself, and can use his illusion powers to shapeshift as well.

    Explosion: Axel's a fire elemental. The explosion was probably just Axel manifesting his powers directly INSIDE Vexen to kill him in a very painful manner, and not an actual special attack.

    #: I'm assuming this is the attack where Marluxia manifests some thorny vines around Sora? This is a crushing attack Marluxia uses, I'm assuming.

    Black/Red Holes in Floor: This is probably a manifestion of Marluxia's floral abilities (note the vines surrounding the holes) in addition to some natural darkness-related abilities that all Nobodies have.

    Duplication: Larxene's duplication powers are more along the anime ninja style of duplication. Think Naruto's clone jutsu, only ten times cooler because Naruto sucks (at least compared to most of the other characters in the show) and Larxene is awesome. :P (I am so a fanboy.)
     
  3. Goofy Twilight Town Denizen

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    Ok.. ok, That helps a lot.. But.. questions. (sorry, the only thing I could think to call it was sliding shroud, cuz that's what happens, he shrouds himself in ball of darkness with a twilight/nothing cord tangled around the outside, and he moves...) Question on that one, not to mention the fact that the Nobodies tend to phase out of being while fighting them (seriously, your attacks will do no damage at random intervals) but Xemnas has his "force wall", which is a very good defense (even better than Xehanort's Heartless guardian block) .... so then why with this move where you can't touch him...??

    So... basically while you're fighting Vexen's silhouette, he's sampling your "physical data" with... whatever science he has on him, and converts it into what he needs to produce an Anti-Form Sora?? That's the disk beneath your feet, and the bar at the top right?? (why is it Anti-Form Sora?? He made Riku's replica perfectly..)

    So.. Zexion (in Sora's silhouette fight) has HIS book, can launch energy waves (didn't really see that, explain the wave..) out of it, can actually bludgeon people with it (like, by making it fly at his opponents) can make copies appear, can make those books open and get BIGGER, and kinda suck whatever's nearest into it.. close, and bring them to some weirdo dimension... (if the copies are destroyed, anyone trapped in it is free) where a fragment of Zexion manifests itself, does all the same things, except there seem to be no real limit to the number of copies or Zexion's book there can be... or something, since pages seem to scatter, and Sora & co. get their butts royally educated in there.. aaand, at Zexion's own will, he'll start a more physical game (like Luxord's random roulette-esque games, but with more..running after a book) and once the controller-book is secured in one of the spotlights, (assuming Sora & co. hasn't followed it in) Zexion lets off a barrage of FLAMING book copies... (what's up with the command menu?? I can't see what's going on except for a page flipping across it) Aaand, in Riku's case, Zexion either voluntarily (or his book allows him to, or his book turns INTO) a shadowy copy of his opponent's weapon (uhm.. with his disguise.. does that mean Zexion could technically wield the Keyblade?? or..) AND can make either real copies of himself, or illusionary scape-goats... Zexion needs the most explanations...

    Marluxia #.... I meant, I've seen the video, and I noticed a # over Sora's head... since nobody seems to fight for the sake of observing the enemy (atleast when they put these videos on the net to be watched by others who MAY want to watch for that reason) the person I saw obviously never let it go down much... so.. I wanna know, what happens when it goes down??

    Uhm, also, what happens if you stand where the big black reddish holes are??

    Ok, I was ALMOST convinced that Larxene was just a fast-mother*, and that they were after-images, but I guess that makes sense, afterall, her weapons are essentially ninja kunai...
     
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    *pops neck, preparing to answer questions*

    1.) For the sliding shroud, I think Xemnas actually becomes the cloud of darkness, and really, who can hurt a cloud? Either that or he makes himself intangible and thus immune to damage that way.

    2.) I don't think it has to do anything with Vexen's choice, I think the programmers made it Anti-Sora both to avoid confusion by having a Sora clone out there, avoid potential cheapness (Sora is VERY powerful in this game, imagine a clone with the exact same abilities), and because a Heartless version of Sora would make Vexen look more evil.

    Hell, for all I know, a couple of the reasons I mentioned could also be applied to Vexen. LoL.

    3.) The energy wave I saw may just have been produced by a flying book. *shrugs* As for all your observations... Yeah, that's pretty much it. Zexion has a lot of powers he can focus through his book. Damaging the Zexion shadow inside either the book world or the meteorite game can force the book to 'disgorge' Sora & company back to fight Zexion for real.

    The spotlight game IS kinda like Luxord's roulette games (for all we know, Luxord may have taught that trick to Zexion in the storyline), but uses flaming meteors as the penalty instead of flaming books.

    I've asked around about the attack where Zexion turns your command menu into a book, and to get your normal menu back, you have to flip around pages and press buttons until you get the page & button that turns your command menu back to normal. Hence what I said earlier.

    As for Zexion's weapon copying, he copies the weapon. Not the power. Otherwise they wouldn't need Roxas and his Keyblades, they could just have Zexion copy it.

    Another example: Zexion could manifest Demyx's sitar, even play some music on it, but he couldn't control water with it. At best he could shoot an energy blast through it, like he did while disguised as Sora during his fight with Riku.

    Zexion can make hard light illusions that can physically attack, but they aren't true clones. Remember, Zexion's power is illusion.

    4.) OH! That. :) Silly me. Okay. That is essentially a death sentence attack. If you'll notice, some of Marluxia's attacks do not damage Sora, they just take down the number counter. If Marluxia hits Sora that set number of times, he's dead even if he has full life. The number is Sora's experience level. So if Sora is level 34 experience, Marluxia just needs to hit him 34 times to kill him. If Sora's experience level is 99, Marluxia needs to hit him 99 times.

    As for the darkness holes, you just take a large amount of damage if you're standing in them.

    5.) Larxene is definetly extremely fast. But she also has ninja clone abilities.

    And I'll bet anything that her minion Nobodies are called Ninjas. Hee.
     
  5. Goofy Twilight Town Denizen

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    Oh, ok, that's excellent. Thanks. Phew. lol Yeah... I wouldn't mind seeing Larxene's, Vexen's, Marluxia's, (unless it's just his 2nd form) Lexaeus', and Zexion's Nobody minions... Nice... Although I normally include Riku & the King when imagining the Orgy's (lol, can't help calling them that now for some reason) attacks and powers... but I don't really need comfirmation on them... Riku in his half-Heartless form is seen by the darkness as a Heartless all himself, and will leave his heart alone, he can enter through the Corridors of Darkness, summon and control Heartless of his own, he still has Dark Firaga, it's also safe to assume he may have Dark Shield already, and still have Dark Aura, he's also able to levitate and quickly beckon and command Xehanort's Heartless' Guardian...his weapon for the most part is his Soul Eater, but once he comes back in contact with Kairi, he chose to use its Keyblade form: Way to the Dawn. The King simply uses his Kingdom Key from the "realm of darkness", and his white magic Pearl spell-attack, I dunno how to explain the "Light, Give me power!" move story-wise...
     
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