358/2 Days Organization XII / The Thirteenth Order

Welp, I'm back everyone, and with more things to sink your teeth into.

Organization were originally called The Thirteenth Order in Deep Dive, as one of the sentences that flash quickly.

Organization 13, The Thirteenth Order......All leading to one meaning, there have been twelve other orders or organizations before that one, right?! It was mentioned that it is not called Organization Thirteen because there are thirteen members. Obvious, since we know about Xion now, originally named Nio I would presume, So, yes, my usual phrase......"Chew on this and give me your thoughts." Love you guys!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

 

as i was reading this theory, i was thinking "nah, another stupid theory"
However, that would explain lots of things. i wont put this idea to rest immediately, like i was going to. it actually seems quite plasible now. nice one :D but still, what would the other 12 be? thats the only thing keeping me from adding this to my theory list :D

 

very interesting theory.... if there were 12 previous "orders" then that means they've been disbanded/eliminated as well. so will there be a 14th order in the future? maybe Xion survives Days and forms a new organization :O

 

This reminds me of when I knew nothing about KH so when I heard Organization XIII, I thought, this is a game with 13 different organizations? Must be some RTS....

 

Ye dude, but How about if like...In one of the games, they briefly explain it, like "Long ago, there were many people who..............12 organizations years and years passing, but they were all eliminated by........ OR they were disbanded, separated, diminished...
One new one formed, and its members sought to .............. the thirteenth order's goal was........" D'you see what I mean?

 

No, no, no and no. :sleepy:

It is Thirteenth Order, because the Roman number XIII means '13', but also 'thirteenth'.

 

They will explain why they didn't change thei name in the game. Also, it's Kairi's Nobody, not Nio.

 

If Xion is Kairi's nobody....
Then.., who the heck is Namine..?

 

...My personal theory is that Xion is Aqua's nobody.
Before you rip me to shreds, XEHANORT became XEMNAS because he lost his memory and changed his name to Ansem before becoming a nobody/heartless.
The same thing could have happened to Aqua.
Xion, after all, has no memory of her previous self.

 

Thirteen Orders of Nobodies?

It makes some sense, to an extent.

However, it honestly depends on how long the Organizations would last. If Nobodies were (I presume) extremely rare to find 10 years earlier, than would there be any Organizations before? If it is true, then I can't think of any other species besides the Nobodies that would be intelligent enough to make a collective Organization, with the exception of normal people. However, that just raises more questions.

 

I like this theory, but where does it say that it's the 13th Order? I remember it, I just can't remember where. What you're saying is entirely possible.

The reason I'm saying this with with so many keyblades,(which are shown in the first BBS trailer) shown in the keyblade GRAVEYARD, it can be said that there were many previous keyblade wielders. Many would obviously rise against the weilders and form groups, which were more likely struck down, disbanded or hid away after their defeat till death. Honestly after thinking this through, I'm surprised there were only 12 previous groups.... But what if those 12 groups(or rather Orders) had something in common with the Org. XII?

This is what I'm talking about... Maybe they're not nobodies. They could be humans, but that would be unlikely. I also doubt it being the heartless, unless they were as powerful as Xehanort's heartless, but that too is unlikely.

If anything I'd say that they were the Unbirths, but there's not enough info., for me to say that.

[New thought] I think that they may be humans... just not normal humans. It actually comes from something Biblical but that's not the point. In the olden times, people could be easily overtaken by demons, and something powerful like holy water would be needed to free them. Maybe instead of demons, darkness is what takes over the humans, and light is what was needed to drive them away.

It think it actually links to something Kairi's grandma says in kh1. I'm not sure though.

I seriously doubt that Xion is Aqua's nobody. The main reason being that at the time heartless hadn't even been created yet, thus there could also be no nobodies. And even if Aqua somehow became a nobody, how could Xemnas have not known about her for so long? I mean Aqua would have been a nobody long before Xemnas(at least a year), so he would have tried to recruit ASAP to build military power. The only thing that would explain it is that Xion is too strong for them to contain. But if that were true, Xemnas wouldn't give her a as much freedom to come and go. Also, IF she were so strong, then it would take more than Axel to bring her back, as he is seen doing in a teaser.

You're gonna need some more evidence to convince people like me.

Uhh... headache, I might type more later, but right now I need some some... some head medicine thingy...

 

The "human overtaken by darkness" thing could work.

However, with the apparent destruction of Organization XIII in KHII, using the logic of this theory, does this mean that another Organization will appear? The Fourteenth Organization?

If Square Enix did it right, it could make for an interesting new plot. "Stopping the Fourteenth Organization from forming".

 

scary....so does this mean there are twelve other organizations we have to bring down? god is that a depressing thought.

 

what? who said this..and i thought it was called Org XIII cuz there were only 13 members

 

No, we wouldn't have to bring down 12 more organizations. What we're saying is that the PREVIOUS keyblade weilders MAY have defeated 12 other organizations before Sora even became a keyblade weilder.

Of course this is just a theory and it could be wrong.

 

May?

And if the other organizations still do exist?

Hm...

Nevertheless, I still enjoy this theory.

 

Hmmm...XII orders before the XIII order....and then Xion appears. It only leads to more and more theories that ends so plausible really. Who's to say that Nobodies weren't 'created' when the Unbirths were around? But, a Heartless was around when they create a Nobody. This only proves what little we know about the XIII orders, almost up to that of a XIV order, if there is going to be a XIV order. ~End of Statement

 

It's said that the nobodies weren't around the same time as the unbirths because Nomura stated that the heartless weren't around at the same time as the unbirths.

And since a heartless must be made to create a nobody, it is impossible for a nobody to be around the same time as the unbirths.

 

We know this, I was just saying...*sighs* Never mind. My theory and statement is after all, false and inaccurate really. But the Orders of Organizations...who's to say it's not true...what if Nomura's got something to hide?