Organization Members' Heartless?

Discussion in 'General & Upcoming Kingdom Hearts' started by Seapeople, Oct 18, 2012.

  1. Seapeople Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Since anytime a nobody is created its heartless is also created, who are the heartless of the Organization members & what happened to them? I've never played any of the handheld games so I might be missing something here.

    We know who Xemnas' heartless is (Ansem) as well as Roxas' heartless (heartless-Sora). What about the others?
     
  2. Railos Hollow Bastion Committee

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    Well since in KH3D, they were able to return to their normal selves I guess the other members' heartless were just regular heartless or boss heartless scattered throughout the different worlds.
     
  3. Meilin Lee RPG (Red Panda Girl)

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    Pretty much this.
     
  4. Menos Grande Kingdom Keeper

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    I think its better we don't know them... they were normal* people before becoming heartless, Sora was a KEYBLADE WIELDER with 3 hearts inside of him, and even though all that he only became a Soldier Heartless :(.... I think Ansem was an "abomination" most people probably don't end up being powerfull heartless.
    I guess because Ansem was falling into darkness for so long that he had grown into darkness as a Human Still, and not only that as it were reported in one of Ansem Reports, only Sora and Ansem "fell into darkness by their on chosing" , that to justify their special nobodies I guess.

    I have a theory (but don't know if They will ever explain the process), a person normaly becomes a low rank heartless when lost their hearts to darkness**, this heartless probably gains strenght feeding on hearts, darkness, and maybe even in other heartless... when they absorve much of these they can "level up" into a new stage. In re:Codded Sora's Heartless absorved the Heartless that we killed (and bugs also) to evolve into a Darkside, so I guess it is possible.


    So they were probably some random soldiers we killed by the game.

    *They could be somewhat magical, but not as great as they were as Nobodies


    ** Unless in Emblem cases as they are made artificially so they can be made in any level available.
     
  5. Seapeople Merlin's Housekeeper

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    That theory makes a lot of sense, thanks for clearing that up
     
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    Heartless are made out of the darkness in your heart(Purebloods) or Hearts enveloped by said darkness(Emblems), it doesn't matter how many are there or how they came to be heartless, the result's strength is determined by how muh darkness he had.
    Sora had almost no darkness, so he became a lowly Shadow, Ansem had
    Terra's + MX's
    darkness, which was so much he retained his human form(Curiously so did Scar, but nobody seems to remember he became a Heartless), they don't necessarily start off weak. So you're right that the other organization 13 members could be just Shadows or even Darksides.

    But special nobodies aren't what they are because they gave up their hearts willingly, it was because the strength of their heart was high.
    Also, just to clarify, Heartless grow by consuming Hearts from people and incorporating their darkness into themselves, or feeding on free hearts released from a Emblem slayed by a Keyblade.
    The problem is the hearts released always went to Xemnas's Kingdom Hearts, so they didn't get the hance to consume them, until the very end where it blows up, then they start doing so and Maleficent and Pete stop the flood and yadda yadda.
    In Re:coded there was no artificial KH attracting hearts, so Sora's Heartless went to consume everything Data Sora slayed, though they weren't real hearts, just fellings and bugs, since hearts can't be codified into data, so it was like he was eating something that couldn't end it's hunger even though it made him stronger just as it would in the normal world, so he kept growing stronger and more desperate the more it ate and all.
     
  7. Meilin Lee RPG (Red Panda Girl)

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    Is it possible the same thing happen to Clayton in Deep Jungle?
     
  8. Shift Chaser

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    He was just controlling them there, like Maleficent and everyone else, or so she said.
    Unless you mean after Stealth Sneak fell on him and he seemingly vanished, then I don't know.
     
  9. Meilin Lee RPG (Red Panda Girl)

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    Because I remember Tarzan saying stuff like how he had no heart, or something like that...
     
  10. Shift Chaser

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    Most likely meant that darkness made him nuts like Riku.
     
  11. Menos Grande Kingdom Keeper

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    Now I remmember! It wasn't about level, the thing is that becoming a heartless by your own chosing makes you retain your memories/fellings as we saw in chain of memories sometimes:
    (Secreat Ansem report 10)
    (Secreat Ansem Report 5 about the evolving heartless)
    So the organization's heartless probably weren't that big deal...