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  1. Peppy Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Hey uh, this really is a serious question, and has been boggling for my mind for a few minutes. Is 0 multiplied by 1/0, 1? So: 0 * 1/0 = 1?
     
  2. Cleopatra King's Apprentice

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    Technically speaking your multiplying 0 by 1. So 0 x 1 = 0. As there are zero groups of zero times another group of zero. I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but 0 x 1 does not equal 1. For example you can have a million times 0 and your answer will be zero, as is every other number multiplied by zero.
     
  3. Peace and War Bianca, you minx!

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    I kinda agree, and isn't 1/0 just 1 divided by 0? If so the answer is still zero.

    I mean I could be wrong, maths equations can be riddled with loads of weird typo stuff that doesn't easily apply.
     
  4. Arch Mana Knight

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    Dividing by zero gives you a 'nonexistent' number.
     
  5. Peace and War Bianca, you minx!

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    I thought that whatever the order of the equation, if a 0 was in it, it instantly equals a 0.
     
  6. Toshi Banned

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    Guys, if you don't know what you're talking about please don't guess.

    You're talking about this function right?
    f(x)=x*1/x
    f has this domain: (-∞,0)υ(0,+∞).
    That means that you can't give x the value of 0.
    To find the result of this function when x gets values really close to 0, you must use limits.
    limf(x)=
    x→0
    =lim(x*1/x)= (since it's 0/0 we must simplify)
    x→0
    =lim(x*1/x)=
    x→0
    =lim1=1
    x→0


    Simple as that. No need for philosofic researches and answers.
     
  7. Arch Mana Knight

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    Huh? Forgive me for not understanding arrows. Are you implying that it equals 0? That's not true.

    Simple as this 0/0 is technically 1. ONE group of zero things in zero groups. BUT, you can't have one of anything if there's nothing there. If you divide by zero you don't get a real number. It's a rule of math. If there was a number that was both zero and one at the same time, that could probably be an answer. There is a need for philosofic research when you're talking about dividing by the fobidden number(of DOOM). 1/0=Nonreal answer. 0/0 defies the normal rule of x/x=1 because it's zero. But 0/0 does not actually equal 0.
     
  8. Toshi Banned

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    Please man. Make me a favor and everyone who knows advanced maths, don't say things that aren't scientifically proven.
    0/0 is an undefined form. That's why we use limits. I could keep writing and writing about undefined forms, but it wouldn't matter since we're talking about this one.

    If you knew what limits are, then you wouldn't ask me what these arrows are. It kinda made me laugh.
     
  9. Patsy Stone Мать Россия

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    Anything divided by zero gives an "infinite" answer. Technically infinity would fall in the domain of irrational numbers, as it can't be placed on a number line explicitly. Technically (again), with the rule of cancellation, if you are multiplying a fraction (or to use the more mathematical terminology, ratio) by a number that is the same as the denominator then you get the numerator as the answer. However, zero is usually a special case and I would say the same here. I doubt that 1/0 multiplied by 0 would give one again.

    I've had too much wine ._.
     
  10. Princess Luna Supreme Co-Ruler of Equestria

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    In a nutshell...

    1/0 = a nonexistant number, therefore, 0*1/0 = Nonexistant/math error/undefined.


    It doesn't get any more complicated than that, and there are no loops or circle that can lead you back to get a 1.
     
  11. Toshi Banned

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    I really can't see why you can't understand what I'm saying. It's the simpliest thing, even if you don't know limits.
     
  12. AmericanSephiroth Traverse Town Homebody

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    yea 1/0 is a nonexistant number but in still going around that anything multiplied by 0 is 0 so probably it would be 1 of 2 answers either 0 or undefined
     
  13. Hayabusa Venomous

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    This is worth discussing how?